You're now changing your argument. Instead of defending your position on the movie, you're now accusing me if being intolerant to your opinion. I am not intolerant of your opinion. I would simply like to hear your answer to my questions. You yourself just asked, "what's the point of this board then? Or any discussion forum?" Well, let's discuss. Let's start with the questions I just asked you.
I have stated repeatedly in response to discussion with you and others in this thread what my issue with this film is and why I have it. Any further exploration or defence of them would be redundant.
Really? Because I'm still trying to figure out what your problem with the film is.
Let's take a look:
And if you're like me, and you have angered girls in your past, this movie makes you glad you never dated a superheroin. Uma Thurman is still sexy, and I think she did great.
Exactly why I won't be watching it.
So you won't watch the movie because you've gotten girls angry at you. Who hasn't? Still, that's kind of a silly rationale to not watch a movie.
Which is exactly how I saw it, just like you. The post above yours totally misses the point. If "he" or "she" were to see it with their significant other I think they'd have appreciated it more...but as I said, the movie was not made for the nerdy crowd, it was a chicflic. And, on this site, chicflicks are not appreciated...for obvious reasons. Wrong crowd.
The fact that it's a chick flick loses it points, sure. The fact that they've turned Fatal Attraction in to a comedy by giving the equivalent of Glenn Close's character super powers loses it more. The subject of violent, deranged ex-girlfriends isn't a particularly good source of comedy despite the perception that being a "Bunny Boiler" is okay.
You don't get to say "The fact that they've turned Fatal Attraction in to a comedy by giving the equivalent of Glenn Close's character super powers loses it more." YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE MOVIE. HOW DO YOU KNOW?
The shark scene was interesting. But, as I recall, it happened while he was sleeping with the other girl. I think she did it because she was jealous and the shark, especially as it tried to munch on his testicles, was the writers attempt to show how women hate how men jump from bed to bed...
Put it this way, you're watching a movie. A guy in the movie comes home to find his ex-girlfriend with another man. He beats up his ex because he's jealous.
What genre of movie are you watching ? You have multiple possible answers, but comedy is not one of them.
I could buy every part of her 'if I'd wanted to kill you, I would have' argument when explaining her tantrums - except the shark. A thrashing about shark does not know shit about her desire to scare but not kill him. Cute and all, but if it'd been a guy, this would have been a horror movie.
Exactly how I feel about it.
Yes, because Sally down the street is going to show up some day and leave a shark in your room as revenge for how you treated her. Please.
DAYUM
You people are taking a light-hearted movie completely out of proportion. It's *satire*.
A miserable failure of an attempt at satire, maybe.
How can you say that if you've never seen the film?
Then this is where you and I started our little discussion.
How are you in any way in a position to critique what the film is about, how it was written, how it was made or the performances that were offered within if you haven't even seen the thing?
I'm not critiquing the film, I'm critiquing the premise. People do that every day when they decide what movies they do and do not want to see.
Ok, I kind of get that. You say you're critiquing the premise, not the film. Yet, you'd already previously made several value judgments not about the premise but about the film. Assessing the entirety of it without seeing it. That doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Knock knock..hello...this movie is about a woman who has super-powers. And, in the scene we are talking about, they hadn't broken up for that long when he was out having sex with the other girl. If you don't think women are possesive, even after you break up with them, then I don't know what planet you are on. That is why the scene works..IMO.
That depends on whether or not you think such behaviour is acceptable and whether or not movies should be encouraging it.
So now this movie, which was seen by what? Seven people? Is a plague to society. Tell me, do you protest against video games too? Is Grand Theft Auto the end of civilization as we know it?
Finally, instead of taking drive-by potshots at "the premise" of the film, you offer up some actual constructive, discussion worthy comments:
Compared to what other movies do, I found this movie harmless and fun...and THAT is the point of this thread. We're not talking about CITIZEN KANE. We're talking about a super-hero movie seen from a woman's perspective. And on that level, it worked. IMO..
That's another problem, though, isn't it ?
Superman Returns is not presented as a comedy as such, despite light hearted moments. However, Clark/Superman engages in almost obsessive behaviour, spying on Lois and her new family. This was heavily criticised on this very board around the time of the film's release and once every few months another thread on the subject will start.
There's also the question of Peter/Spider-Man's behaviour in Spider-Man 3. Again, heavily criticised.
Neither of these movies are supposed to be Citizen Kane. They're both summer blockbusters and not supposed to be taken seriously. Why, therefore, should My Super Ex-Girlfriend escape being treated with such a critical eye while those movies do not ?
While I don't necessarily agree with you, you do bring up some points worth discussing. However, the point of your comments basically boil down to "These movies I liked were really criticized heavily! Oh look, someone liked this other movie I didn't see but probably wouldn't like, let me criticize it in return, because fair's fair!" (Are you detecting a pattern yet?)
Me thinks Hermiod has had a bad break-up in the past
Sorry, I see it the same as Robert does.
No, he hasn't. Like I said, it seems like Fatal Attraction has legitimised "Bunny Boiler" behaviour and now we're making comedies about it.
And once again, without having seen the movie, you are not qualified to make the above assessment of the film's content.
Damn. And people tell me I'm high strung. This movie is seriously silly and has not "legitimised" bunny boiling (everyone knows you fry rabbit anyway
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I'm only applying the same critical eye to it that everyone else applies to the aforementioned Superman Returns or Spider-Man 3.
Thank goodness for that. Here's a news flash. Not all films are created equal, nor should they be held to the same standards. Why? Because while the main purpose of a film is usually to entertain you, some films do other things too. X2 was an allegory for the intolerance many people are faced with every day. It was a highly fueled "issue" movie, despite being a comic book movie. My Super Ex-Girlfriend was, in your own words, a "chick flick." How on earth do you expect to be taken seriously when you hold both films to the same checklist of approval? Do you also critique the Bible,
Poor Richard's Almanac,
Candide,
A Farewell to Arms, and the latest issue of
Maxim to the same standards?
So yeah, I'm still clueless about your problem with the movie beyond the fact that you don't seem to appreciate a superpowered woman playing God with and menacing her ex-boyfriend.
No, I know you like the show. You missed the point of why I brought it up. Even though you love it, you also see the faults others do. Why? Because you've seen the episodes. You haven't seen the movie this thread is about. On the issue of Stargate Atlantis, were you to launch into critical discourse about the show, I'd take it seriously because I know you've seen the episodes and are relatively well informed on the subject matter. In the case of My Super Ex-Girlfriend, that's impossible because you haven't seen the movie.
I find the subject matter, no matter its humourous intent, objectionable and thus I choose not to see it. That's my choice.
I picked on your assumptions based on my "posting history" by making one based on yours.
Once again ... "You did to me, now I do to you." Tit for tat. Never any progress.
I have no idea. I used an obvious example. This place is full of people who routinely watch shows they hate just so they can attack them later. The Battlestar Galactica forum is a good place to start.
I was being rhetorical.
Where did I say that? Are you really so stubborn that you can't see how hypocritical you're being? Again, I am in no way trying to diminish your opinion, I am only interested in hearing your reasons for coming to it. Being that you again, admittedly, have not seen the picture, I am struggling to find the precious balance in there somwhere where your logic makes sense.
I have explained and explained and explained my position.[/quote]
No, you have not. You spent the first page and a half dropping one-liners about how you didn't see the movie, and agreeing with others about why you wouldn't. When you finally did comment in some detail, it was because you felt some need for "payback" on behalf of other, 'real' superhero films that took flack for issues they had.
Now who's making it personal?
That'd still be you. You brought my "posting history" and your view of it in to this discussion, not me.[/quote]
And so, instead of backing up your argument, you're just going to get down and do the same. Nice. See that pattern now?
