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My first voyage with Voyager

Well I had to ask, didn't I? :P

Really this episode is just a symptom of the series as a whole. Disappointing and it could have been better. Voyager wasn't the worst of the Trek series by any shot, but it could have been the best with a bit more consistent writing and that's what made it so disappointing.

Chakotay's a great example. When I first watched Caretaker I was thinking this guy might end up being my favorite character. The aggressive, adversarial good guy who's done things the Starfleet way but found those ways wanting. Him and Janeway could have had excellent tension and drama between the two of the. The righteous Starfleet captain vs the pragmatic rebel leader.

But after Caretaker he pretty much just faded into the background and the Maquis element virtually vanished from the series. Tom Paris acts more rebellious than Torres or Chakotay. Really it just seemed they shined the light so brightly on Janeway that the only reason a first officer was even there was they needed one, but letting him do anything dramatic might take away from the captain. Really the only episodes he really stands up to her are Scorpion and Equinox. No details, but one case he only does so because she's unconscious and the other Janeway does something so insane any moral human being would have stepped in.

It's really amazing when Chakotay seems cheerful or lifelike it almost always turns out to be an alternate universe, or holodeck simulation. As I said, my theory is Janeway castrated Chakotay after he joined her crew. It's the only explanation. ;)
 
Thing is I think he spoke too soon. They were only on the planet what, 2 months maximum? I know at some point it is day 24. That is way too early for giving up hope that Voyager will find a solution as well as giving up hope that she will ever see her fiance again.

I couldn't choke down a rewatch though, so I just watched the above video by a past poster here. That's enough for me :lol:
 
Imagine if Scientology survived to th 24th century.

They'd be sending out star ships to the four corners of known space to find Xenu's fossilized remains.
 
Imagine if Scientology survived to th 24th century.

They'd be sending out star ships to the four corners of known space to find Xenu's fossilized remains.

And wake Tom Cruise from cryogenic sleep to star in "Mission Impossible 35: Wormhole To Enlightenment."
 
His wives keep getting getting younger.

If he doesn't go into stasis, the poor bastard will have to start trawling schoolyards.
 
The more years a woman lives the more celebrity gossip she absorbs.

They need younger and younger women to minimize the gossip about him that's sunk in.
 
Resolutions
Favorite part: The whole episode. I am a big fan. Beltran actually gets a chance to act, and he is obviously more comfortable with the role of leading man, and we get to see Janeway as Janeway; not the Captain! They have great clothes, props, etc. The acting was superb and there were many subtle physical actions that really spiced up the scenes. It was also an interesting follow up to Tuvix. In Tuvix Janeway kind of gives in to her emotions when she decides to save Tuvok and Neelix and in this episode Tuvok does the same. It was an emotional decision to some degree. It may have been a bit of a common sense, based on the crews’ well-being mumbo jumbo, but in the end it was based on a feeling. He disobeyed; Tuvok disobeyed Janeway in order to save her and Chakotay even though he was rather certain they were falling into a trap. Is Tuvok’s decision correct, or by the same arguments did he fail even though it resulted in a happy ending—(for everyone but Chakotay).

I`m glad you liked it.
I love Resolutions. It`s one of my alltime favorites. Janeway and Chakotay are great together and the angry warrior speach is very touching.

Every time I watch it I`m thinking of two things
1.
Kate Mulgrew on "Resolutions" at CREATION 17-18 AUGUST 1996, NOVI, MICHIGAN:

During the original first take of the "Resolutions"angry warrior scene, Kate cried profusely because Chakotay's speech toJaneway was so beautiful. The director had her tone it down for the finaltake. Kate feels that the commitment Chakotay declared for Janeway is such a beautiful sentiment that it would make anyone cry. She called her co-star "my divine Robert Beltran" and said that one night after shooting very late, she found him standing outside staring out at the stars. He told her he was thinking of trying prayer on a mystic level. At this, she looked athim dreamily and said, "Will you marry me?"
It`s from this site
http://www.littlereview.com/kmas/nowvoy12.txt

and 2.
the alternate end of Resolutions" with a kiss between Janeway and Chakotay.
 
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Resolutions
Favorite part: The whole episode. I am a big fan. Beltran actually gets a chance to act, and he is obviously more comfortable with the role of leading man, and we get to see Janeway as Janeway; not the Captain! They have great clothes, props, etc. The acting was superb and there were many subtle physical actions that really spiced up the scenes. It was also an interesting follow up to Tuvix. In Tuvix Janeway kind of gives in to her emotions when she decides to save Tuvok and Neelix and in this episode Tuvok does the same. It was an emotional decision to some degree. It may have been a bit of a common sense, based on the crews’ well-being mumbo jumbo, but in the end it was based on a feeling. He disobeyed; Tuvok disobeyed Janeway in order to save her and Chakotay even though he was rather certain they were falling into a trap. Is Tuvok’s decision correct, or by the same arguments did he fail even though it resulted in a happy ending—(for everyone but Chakotay).

I`m glad you liked it.
I love Resolutions. It`s one of my alltime favorites. Janeway and Chakotay are great together and the angry warrior speach is very touching.

Every time I watch it I`m thinking of two things
1.
Kate Mulgrew on "Resolutions" at CREATION 17-18 AUGUST 1996, NOVI, MICHIGAN:

During the original first take of the "Resolutions"angry warrior scene, Kate cried profusely because Chakotay's speech toJaneway was so beautiful. The director had her tone it down for the finaltake. Kate feels that the commitment Chakotay declared for Janeway is such a beautiful sentiment that it would make anyone cry. She called her co-star "my divine Robert Beltran" and said that one night after shooting very late, she found him standing outside staring out at the stars. He told her he was thinking of trying prayer on a mystic level. At this, she looked athim dreamily and said, "Will you marry me?"
It`s from this site
http://www.littlereview.com/kmas/nowvoy12.txt

and 2.
the alternate end of Resolutions" with a kiss between Janeway and Chakotay.

Thank you! I am so happy to hear a positive review!
 
Another positive review here. :) (I don't think it's very popular on this board because I don't think there are many J/C fans here, for one thing.)

One of my favourite episodes. Anything else aside, it's so nice to see them get a chance to actually get to know each other as something other than Captain and First Officer - and even if it didn't lead to romance, I've always thought it cemented the deep friendship they shared throughout the series.

And, c'mon, he built her a bathtub. I'm sure some of my cavities are from the number of times I've watched this episode. ;)
 
this happened after Tuvok trounced the Vidiians...

Very nicely. We should have vine-ripened Talaxian tomatoes in a couple of months, unless this planet has the equivalent of tomato bugs. Oh, they're awful.
then two scenes later Voyager is in orbit and...
[Outside the shelter]
(The tomatoes are suddenly nearly full grown. Janeway and Chakotay are back in uniform and not looking too happy. All the equipment is packed up.)
CHAKOTAY: Ready?
(The primate turns up.)
JANEWAY: There you are. At least I get to say good bye. Feel free to use the house. Janeway to Voyager. Two to beam up.
point is that she hadn't been growing the Tomatoes for as long as it took the tomatoes to grow since Tuvok got as far away from the planet as he could before she planted them and then had to come all the way back over their own tracks. (Janeway makes too many enemies. She would have had to have charted an alternate, certainly longer, route to circumnavigate all the federations new enemies she had made. Kudos to Captain Tuvok.)

Several months times 2.

They could have been on that planet for half a hear or longer.
 
^
Why? They ordered Voyager not to contact the Viidians and go home. Unless you're saying they somehow expected Tuvok to disobey and return months later after essentially wasting that amount of time, then why? There's enough things to be critical of Chakotay about without digging for things like this.
 
I'm not digging. It's Voyager and Voyager's crew which Janeway has a great opinion of. It's also Janeway herself, the scientist Janeway who is ever an optimist and ever expecting to find solutions. I wouldn't be hitting on her until she had clearly given in and resigned herself to the situation and that sure wouldn't be after some months.
 
Janeway was engaged.

Chakotay didn't even mention Mark in his big "I'm going to bang you" speech because he doesn't respect her commitments and promises to herself and others.
 
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