My dad and best friend are republicans
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No its not. If the thread title was: My dad and best friend have an opposing political ideology - THAT would have been a "big stretch." I agree with Nerys; its as if the OP is suggesting Republicans are a long since dismissed political dead end - that there are no Republicans.... anywhere
Given that you and Nerys are actually interpreting it two different ways, isn't it possible that you're both reading into it a bit? She's comparing it to having a disease, while you're interpreting it as saying there are no Republicans left.
Because of the disease, obviously.
Plus, and I can't stress this enough: it's Jayson. Strange and spammy though his many stream of consciousness threads may be, the guy is not malicious. To assume there's some sort of back door insult implied by the title is ridiculous.
Jayson sees not color, nor creed, nor political stripe through biased eyes. He flings poo on everyone, fairly and equally, as it should be.
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Exactly. I think that's why among the more fundamentalist sects of the faith, "saved by grace through faith" is a popular goto verse. It means (at least to them) you can talk the talk and not have to walk the walk because you're saved, and as long as you speak magical words and go to church every week, toss a little in the offering plate, you're in like Flynn.
Yes, Republican. Or.... Whoops! Wrong board...
Washington State is where I am now, BTW.
It sounds like a lot of the ideologues I know.
It seems to be hard for people to recognize a joke these days.
He may have been joking but he's also correct. Studies show that more intelligent people identify as liberal.
which reminds me, I really got an ideological bone to pick with your pal, Lefty Lemon
Half of my friends are Republicans...some of their family was filthy rich before the economy went sour...and the other half are Mexicans and part Native Americans.
And I think you can't really judge people solely on whether what kind of people they are categorized in... It's like...there are bad religious and good religious people...just as there are good and bad Republicans... Some of these people were raised as either as Republicans or Christians. For people who aren't raised as Christians...growing up and going to Bible school...they don't know what it feels like. I don't know what the big deal is because I wasn't raised as Christian, but I do know they are some of the most ridiculed people in the country...and the Native Americans. I think it's like you trying to tell me Thai people sucks... [chuckle]
And I think you can't really judge people solely on whether what kind of people they are categorized in... It's like...there are bad religious and good religious people...just as there are good and bad Republicans... Some of these people were raised as either as Republicans or Christians. For people who aren't raised as Christians...growing up and going to Bible school...they don't know what it feels like. I don't know what the big deal is because I wasn't raised as Christian, but I do know they are some of the most ridiculed people in the country...and the Native Americans. I think it's like you trying to tell me Thai people sucks... [chuckle]
They probably mean Left Wing, though.
We don't even let Righty Rhubarb play with us.which reminds me, I really got an ideological bone to pick with your pal, Lefty Lemon
While I doubt all Republicans are, the most extreme ones certainly have a short fuse.
Both of my internship supervisors were extremely religious and right-wing. I never bothered discussing politics with them, but they had some sort of sixth sense that made them know I'm a liberal. It was rather strange.
I tried to not let it bother me, until I ended up being accused of being a baby killer in a completely off-topic manner.
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Honey, you get used to that after a while (did I just call you honey?). Some people refuse to give any other viewpoint a chance, and just want to make you out to be the bad guy so they can feel good about themselves. It becomes "us" vs. "them" when it doesn't have to be that way.
Yeah. It was possibly the worst year of my life. I dreaded working with those two. Of course, they gave me about the worse marks possible, belittled me as being selfish, lazy, and unorganized (keep in mind, I was an unpaid intern who was going to grad school full time).
I do live in a very Republican town right now. I was at the local Subway today when there was a discussion started between the lady working and a local elderly couple about Obama. The elderly gentleman kept saying he read a book "at the Dollar General" saying Obama isn't American. I pointed out that this claim was debunked quite a while ago, and he retorted that "it's still being investigated".
Then the lady told me that "the world is falling apart. Everybody would be better off if they turned to Christ instead of Obama". When I pointed out that Obama is Christian, she retorted with a sarcastic "yeah, right".
The couple got so worked up we had to stop and say "okay, enough politics", after which they promptly left.
It happens on both sides, unfortunately. I've heard the same stories about people getting marked off by liberal professors for espousing conservative viewpoints in class.
I fortunately never had that experience; in fact, I actually got good marks from a left-wing labor relations professor because I had the nerve to challenge him and back my points up logically. He could sometimes be a bit of a jerk in class and I think he was one of those people who respected you if you knew how to push back. I suspect that to him, what was the most important was that you thought about what you were studying rather than just spitting the same stuff back to pass a test.
I fortunately never had that experience; in fact, I actually got good marks from a left-wing labor relations professor because I had the nerve to challenge him and back my points up logically. He could sometimes be a bit of a jerk in class and I think he was one of those people who respected you if you knew how to push back. I suspect that to him, what was the most important was that you thought about what you were studying rather than just spitting the same stuff back to pass a test.
Berkeley + San Francisco
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Those are the type of people who thrive on bad news. They lord over it because it makes them feel important, like they've got some measure of control over their circumstances. They don't, and they're just as powerless as you and I in such matters, but they manage to delude themselves into thinking their voice matters in a political machine that runs roughshod over them every chance they get, and they'll never learn.
I'm a radically social libertarian and progressive atheist, and my entire extended family of 1 grandmother, 6 aunts/uncles, 16 cousins, with a few exceptions, are hard core conservative devout catholics, and a couple are even Jehovas Witnesses. But we somehow get along.
In my immediate family, my mom and brother are the socialist type, my dad is a fiscal conservative, and none of them agree with me on my libertarian views. My mom also believes in astrology and homeopathy, along with various other alternative medicines. At least my dad and brother agree with me that those are baloney. My bro is an even stronger atheist that I am. I actually don't know whether my dad is an atheist. I think he probably is but he was raised Protestant and my mom Catholic. She now hates the Church for their crimes which is a source of tension with her mom (my grandmother), but still believes in God.
In my immediate family, my mom and brother are the socialist type, my dad is a fiscal conservative, and none of them agree with me on my libertarian views. My mom also believes in astrology and homeopathy, along with various other alternative medicines. At least my dad and brother agree with me that those are baloney. My bro is an even stronger atheist that I am. I actually don't know whether my dad is an atheist. I think he probably is but he was raised Protestant and my mom Catholic. She now hates the Church for their crimes which is a source of tension with her mom (my grandmother), but still believes in God.
Yes. I have heard stories about that sort of thing happening, but have not experienced it myself. In fact, the only time I have seen a professor get upity on a conservative student is when he/she is utterly obnoxious in class, thinking they need to espouse their personal point of view on everybody in the class.
For example, when taking biology classes, we have had students protest having to learn about evolution.
One of my counseling supervisors mentioned above told me that during his final examination when asked to write an essay about treating a hypothetical client, he stated explicitly that he would treat the client "to be a good Christian". Which is fine if you are doing Christian counseling, but when they are trying to gauge your understanding of counseling theories, that didn't cut it. So he was, of course, a poor persecuted Christian at a liberal university.
Those are probably the very same students who come online to complain about "liberal" professors.
The same supervisor would routinely inject his personal religious views into counseling sessions. For example, he outright attacked a lesbian client for her lifestyle. One female client who was almost raped he told her it was her fault for "being too sexy".
I hope the guy is either turned in and loses his license. But he will probably have a great future working for Michelle Bachman's husband.
