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Music Stems

Hey Methuselah, do you have the La La Land 15-CD box set? I'm glad I bought it when I could, because it's out of print now, and even the download version has vanished from iTunes and Amazon.

And if you have it, is your interest in getting the tracked scores, where music from various original scores was edited into new configurations?
 
Oh god yes I have that amazing set!!

My interest is in getting or editing the music stems/edits from the library-tracked episodes.

Doing it yourself is apparently not practical, if you want to match the show. I think it was @ssosmcin who found that even doing one episode by re-editing the CD tracks was going to take ages, because there is so much work in it. That is, unless software can somehow separate the music on DVD. That would be good.

My favorite tracked-edit sequence is Requiem for Methuselah's medley of love themes from The Empath and Elaan of Troyius. But in general, the original scores are just fine.
 
Doing it yourself is apparently not practical, if you want to match the show. I think it was @ssosmcin who found that even doing one episode by re-editing the CD tracks was going to take ages, because there is so much work in it. That is, unless software can somehow separate the music on DVD. That would be good.

My favorite tracked-edit sequence is Requiem for Methuselah's medley of love themes from The Empath and Elaan of Troyius. But in general, the original scores are just fine.

Yeah, I did "The Corbomite Maneuver" and it was a bear. Just the idea of tackling something like "Balance of Terror" gives me cramps. Some of the attack scenes cobble together just a few seconds from random cues. It's not only a bitch to recreate, it sounds ugly on its own.

I ripped the isolated music track from "Mirror, Mirror" from The Roddenberry Vault and the fight outside the turbolift music sounds hideous when listened to without the visuals and sound effects. It's edited to punctuate the incidents on screen. "Mickey Mouseing" as it's called. I'd only done editing of a handful of cues because of how I liked them in certain episodes, but for the most part, I listen to the scores as presented on the CDs.
 
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I ripped the isolated music track from "Mirror, Mirror" from The Roddenberry Vault and the fight outside the turbolift music sounds hideous when listened to without the visuals and sound effects. It's edited to punctuate the incidents on screen. "Mickey Mouseing" as it's called. I'd only done editing of a handful of cues because of how I liked them in certain episodes, but for the most part, I listen to the scores as presented on the CDs.

That makes sense. On the CD tracks, you get the organic experience as it was composed and performed. There are a just a few cases where the editor put together disparate things that worked great. And I do like "This Side of Paradise" as a Greatest Hits playlist.

And I can think of one case where the editor actually cut out an awkward bit of Mickey Mousing, in "The Menagerie" version of Pike fighting the Kalar. But in general, the original cue recordings are where it's at. :bolian:
 
Where abouts is the kalar bit?

It's in "Monster Fight" (S1 D1 Track 5), roughly at 3:42 - 3:47 per my iPod. This is the bit that came as a shock on GNP Volume 1 in 1985, when all we'd ever heard was the aired version in "The Menagerie."

Neil Norman even prepared us for it in the liner notes ("During the editing of the series, the music was cut to suit each scene....") so we wouldn't flip out when it didn't match what we'd memorized. :wtf:
 
It's in "Monster Fight" (S1 D1 Track 5), roughly at 3:42 - 3:47 per my iPod. This is the bit that came as a shock on GNP Volume 1 in 1985, when all we'd ever heard was the aired version in "The Menagerie."

Neil Norman even prepared us for it in the liner notes ("During the editing of the series, the music was cut to suit each scene....") so we wouldn't flip out when it didn't match what we'd memorized. :wtf:
I'll have a listen tonight! Will re read the notes too! :)
 
Regarding Mirror, Mirror, I think the worst 'offender' is listening to the music track when Marlena zaps Sulu's henchmen in Sickbay.

I'm guessing the Mickey Mousing with the Monster Fight is more about what is on screen in The Cage, as I don't really sense anything from the soundtrack alone. Perhaps I'm not listening hard enough?
 
Regarding Mirror, Mirror, I think the worst 'offender' is listening to the music track when Marlena zaps Sulu's henchmen in Sickbay.

I'm guessing the Mickey Mousing with the Monster Fight is more about what is on screen in The Cage, as I don't really sense anything from the soundtrack alone. Perhaps I'm not listening hard enough?

Maybe you don't have the two-parter edit ingrained in your memory. Or I'm wrong. It's not a big thing.
 
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