Multiple Warp Cores?

[Johnnymuffintop]

"Core" refers to a single unit or single region.
If the 8 or so chambers were spread out evenly throughout the ship, then there would be no reason to refer to it as a core. However, that is not the case. Yes, there are what appear to be 8 or so individual dilithum chambers, as they are referred to in the film, but since they are all located within a single space, that area would be referred to as a "core".

 

[OneBuckFilms]

In the new movie, (think it was Pike), someone said to transfer power from the port nacelle. Not re-route power going to the nacelle... That suggested to me the possiblility of the Nacelles having their own reactors. Though it could also have suggested that power being sent to the nacelle, was to be routed elsewhere. But all those little pods ejecting from the spine of the ship could have been anything related to the warp core/ reactor...

Pike ordered to transfer power from the nacelle shield to the forward shield.

As for the multi-core reactor, and since this is a parallel reality, I see it as a desperate attempt by Starfleet engineers to counter a mysterious romulan ubership. One can postulate that the vertical intermix chamber (the radical new design from TMP) is still in early development at that time and the best quick and safe solution to improve warp output is to use four (or six, or eight, can’t remember) reactors working in tandem, instead of a single warp reactor.
At least it’s an in universe excuse for using the brewery...

It would also provide some capacity to run offo of one or two cores, while the others are down for servicing, or combine power from multiple intermix chambers (Or Dilithium chambers) to provide a bigger punch.

It would even make sense that this may be the arrangement in TOS, since there was no single identifiable warp core, but several places that held Dilithium crystals, indicating multiple reactors.

The collection of 4-6 Dilithium/Intermix chambers are likely collectively referred to as the Warp Core.

 

[KlingonPredator]

I would think that there are more reactors than one...it would be very foolish to only have one. That current USS Enterprise went from 8 reactors to two currently, with each one able to operate the ship.

 

[Wes-Cutting]

I was going off the idea that like submarines, starships would have multiple engines. Only one is needed to actually power the ship while the other(s) are offline and are being worked on/repaired. I would also go with the idea of ejecting the fuel pods with the core because that is where the punch of any explosion is going to be.

 

[Samurai8472]

It's a mess up, by accident or not. The movie has some of them. Like in the beginning, aboard the Kelvin, when Robau takes a turbolift to the shuttlebay. The shuttlebay, the engineering section, is above the saucer. Yet within the engineering section, we see the turbolift going doing. From where did it come from? Did it go down from the bridge into the saucer, horizontal to the neck, up the neck, up the whole engineering section and then again coming down? Makes no sense.

Robau is so badass he installed the elevator from "Willy Wonka and the Chocolate factory"

It can go up and down, sideways, slantways, and longways, and backways...

 

[BenRoethig]

I see the JJ-prise as something like CVN-65. Seeing that the redesigned Constitution is considerably larger than anything that came before it, they did not have the knowhow to build a single core that big yet. Instead, they use several smaller cores.

 

[JarodRussell]

Same thing with the red/blue warp nacelles, the size of the ship, the clean engine room design principle, the position of the secondary hull, etc... Why the hell did they need to change that? Why turn one warp core into several warp cores? All "annoying" things, "annoying" because they clearly mess with details that had been there for 40 years in the original Trek. There was no reason to do it. There would have been no change in the box office, no change in the story, no change in the quality of the movie. Yet they did it.

The new target audience wouldn't care if the Enterprise had red warp nacelles, a longer neck and the engineering section at the right place. The lovers of this movie wouldn't care, but the nitpickers would be pleased.

The new audience wouldn't care if the engine room looked clean, tidy, yet massive, like the original engine rooms. The nitpickers would be pleased though, and those who love the movie now would still love it, wouldn't they?

Nobody would care if the Enterprise ejected only one warp core. Nitpickers would be happy, it wouldn't make a difference for the lovers, and the new audience wouldn't even notice a difference.


So why the hell did they change stuff like that in the first place?

 

[OneBuckFilms]

JarodRussel, they were changed for aesthetic reasons, to set it apart in one of many ways from previous Trek movies for a new audience.

There is nothing on screen in TOS that precludes a similar arrangement for the Enterprise seen then. We never saw the Warp Core until TMP, and until TNG, it was not really settled on the way Matter/Antimatter/Dilithium Crystals all interacted.

 

[SilentP]

All of Jarod's 'nitpickers/movie lovers/new audience' reactions rule out the possibility that people would have actually not liked seeing the exact same Enterprise in the new movie, or those who actually prefer how it looks now (even though this current incarnation isn't perfect either).

 

[JarodRussell]

You guys are not getting it.

JarodRussel, they were changed for aesthetic reasons, to set it apart in one of many ways from previous Trek movies for a new audience.

That's exactly what I meant: the changes I mentioned had NO influence on the success of the movie. Or do you really think red warp nacelles, or a clean engine room, would have turned this movie into a bomb?

All of Jarod's 'nitpickers/movie lovers/new audience' reactions rule out the possibility that people would have actually not liked seeing the exact same Enterprise in the new movie, or those who actually prefer how it looks now (even though this current incarnation isn't perfect either).

Who's talking about the exact same Enterprise? You mean the original TOS Enterprise? Now that would have sucked. But what was the reason to deform the new ship that way? There is none. There's no formula "changed position of engineering section + thicker neck + huge nacelles = more viewers".

 

[SilentP]

You guys are not getting it.

JarodRussel, they were changed for aesthetic reasons, to set it apart in one of many ways from previous Trek movies for a new audience.

That's exactly what I meant: the changes I mentioned had NO influence on the success of the movie. Or do you really think red warp nacelles, or a clean engine room, would have turned this movie into a bomb?

Well the changes obviously made a difference to some people, otherwise they wouldn't be going on about it, would they?

All of Jarod's 'nitpickers/movie lovers/new audience' reactions rule out the possibility that people would have actually not liked seeing the exact same Enterprise in the new movie, or those who actually prefer how it looks now (even though this current incarnation isn't perfect either).

Who's talking about the exact same Enterprise? You mean the original TOS Enterprise? Now that would have sucked. But what was the reason to deform the new ship that way? There is none. There's no formula "changed position of engineering section + thicker neck + huge nacelles = more viewers".

Neither does "changed position of engineering section + thicker neck + huge nacelles = less viewers" and since JJ wanted to change things to make the ship fit better with today's audience aesthetically, he's free to do so.

And what are you saying if not the original TOS Enterprise, while still saying they should keep the same exact aesthetic? What Enterprise is it that you wanted?

 

[OneBuckFilms]

JarodRussel,

Individually, maybe not. But collectively, if changes were not made, the overall effect would have made things look like a parody, and lack the freshness of seeing someting new.

Star Trek would, at that point, have failed.

In a visual medium, such as Cinema, the visuals matter, and the choices made for aesthetic reasons are very much a part of that.

 

[JarodRussell]

You are still thinking that I'd like to see the TOS models on the big screen, do you?

 

[SilentP]

You are still thinking that I'd like to see the TOS models on the big screen, do you?

I don't know, hence why I asked you in my last post which one you want to see.

 

[JarodRussell]

You are still thinking that I'd like to see the TOS models on the big screen, do you?

I don't know, hence why I asked you in my last post which one you want to see.

It's simple. I like the saucer, the nacelles, and basically the secondary hull, too. All it takes is to put the secondary hull where it belongs, and the nacelles further apart, so that it looks more like the TOS or TMP, proportion-wise.

 

[SilentP]

You are still thinking that I'd like to see the TOS models on the big screen, do you?

I don't know, hence why I asked you in my last post which one you want to see.

It's simple. I like the saucer, the nacelles, and basically the secondary hull, too. All it takes is to put the secondary hull where it belongs, and the nacelles further apart, so that it looks more like the TOS or TMP, proportion-wise.

Fair enough. I'd agree with you on the nacelle being further apart, at some angles, it's quite jarring. Not too put out by the secondary hull placement though. Could have done with being bigger though to keep it similar proportion wise

 

[shapeshifter]

JarodRussell, perhaps they made the changes to irritate the nit-pickers.

You're not irritated about them, are you?

 

[jaksajak]

The warp core is a series of tubes. Just like the internet.