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Mr. Spock, I've brought you some assorted vegetables...

Chrisisall

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How many here eat like Spock?
Just curious, are ST fans anti-meat? Pro-bologna (and rolls)?
Are we an animal rights conscious bunch? A health conscious bunch? An omnivore bunch?

Personally, you couldn't PAY me to eat a mammal, but I have no problem with cheese or eggs. Tuna fish in cans as my protien needs see fit (and I'm not totally comfortable with that, btw) . I have an aversion to killing animals I would have a problem with ending the life of personally, so I won't even eat dead birds.
However, Spock tasted flesh, and liked it, when Vulcan was still in it's savagery (Ewwwweue).

So, weigh in here, Veggiesaurauses, Vegans, Carnivores, Omnivores!

What do ST fans chow down on?

*goes to get his plate of gagh* :angryrazz:
 
Somehow, the scene in Broken Bow where T'Pol gets pissy with Archer and Tucker for eating steak comes to mind (really wanted to smack her upside the head, even moreso after her "you should learn to objectify other cultures" comment given that scene).

I'll try out almost any food once, and I will always be an omnivore. Though I don't eat a ton of red meat, I do enjoy a good steak now and then. I've taken to snacking on apples as of late.
 
I'll try out almost any food once, and I will always be an omnivore. Though I don't eat a ton of red meat, I do enjoy a good steak now and then.
So, those bovine growth hormones don't really have an effect on your weight.;)
Wise IMO to not eat a lot of it.

Freerangeeggisisall:lol:
 
There is room for all God's creatures. Right next to the mashed potatos.:)
 
I'm a lacto-ovo vegetarian (I eat eggs and dairy, but no animal flesh). I don't have a moral or ethical objection to eating meat; it just upsets my stomach. I don't mind not eating it. I was never a big fan of meat anyway.
 
2 of my primary 'P' pillars of food are Poultry and Pork, so I'd say that doesn't make me a vegetarian by any stretch of the imagination :)
 
I'm a lacto-ovo vegetarian (I eat eggs and dairy, but no animal flesh). I don't have a moral or ethical objection to eating meat; it just upsets my stomach. I don't mind not eating it. I was never a big fan of meat anyway.
I know a few people who are like that.

But even being a vegetarian I can understand, not "get", but understand.

The one that really baffles me is the whole vegan bit. Yeah that glass of milk is really going to put-out cows everywhere. :rolleyes:
 
I'm an omnivore, and if meat wasn't so bland on it's own and I didn't mind eating it for every meal, I'd probably end up being a carnivore. I could easily go vegetarian if I wanted, I could just live on pasta and I wouldn't mind at all. Vegan on the other hand, I don't see how anyone can handle that. It must be so boring, not to mention how frustrating it must be trying to avoid animal products when you're eating out or someone else cooks for you.

I can understand why people would be vegetarian or vegan because of allergies/intolerancies, or even because they just don't like meat, but people who refuse to eat meat because it's "wrong" make me laugh. Other omnivorous/carnivorous animals kill for food, so why shouldn't we? Humans are omnivores, and are even capable of being carnivores. And then there's the fact that you aren't going to make a difference by not eating meat, it's a futile cause. Other people will continue to eat meat even if you don't, but hey that's just more for us.
 
Aren't vegans from the Vega star system? :p

Just FYI the purported cardivascular impact of red meat is a result of the way cows are fed, on a diet high in cheap grain and byproducts of slaughtered cows.

Grass-fed cows e.g. "natural beef" are high in omega-3's and CLA's which support positive heart health. It also has a real taste to it as opposed to the bland taste of grain/cow byproduct-fed beef.

My MD has a mental fit when I tell him how much red meat I consume. When I point out the positive results of my bloodwork he still is a little huffy but shuts up. We go thru this routine every year at my physical.

I can understand people's ethical objections to consuming meat and therefore becoming vegetaries/vegans. I object when these people claim moral superiority. It isn't a superior set of ethics to carnivores/omnivores, just different.

I think the bottom line is that you should eat what makes you feel healthier. For me, its meats and root vegetables.
 
I object when these people claim moral superiority. It isn't a superior set of ethics to carnivores/omnivores, just different.
I have a theory: As long as man can justify violence against animals for sustinance, he will justify violence against his fellow man for all manner of other reasons.
How's that for a different set of ethics?;)
 
I'm vegetarian. I eat eggs and milk. I don't eat meat, fish, poultry, gelatin and various other animal-derived food. Basically if the animal had to be killed, I won't eat it. However, I do own a really nice leather jacket my grandmother gave me.
I personally think that in our less-primitive society today (I won't yet say "advanced") we don't need meat at all. That being said, I don't look down on self-professed carnivores or give lectures when my friends chow down on meat. I can't stand vegetarians with superiority complexes.

I ate meat for the first sixteen years of my life. I personally feel a lot better without it. :)
 
I stopped eating meat a few years ago (I do eat eggs and dairy, in fact it's a big part of my diet) and I've been feeling a lot better since. You don't lose a thing by not eating meat, and it's a lot healthier since meat needs hours and hours to be processed in your stomach. I don't need that, especially with rectal cancer running in my family. :eek: Plus when you're buying food there's a less of a chance it would be infected with something.*yuck*
 
I have a theory: As long as man can justify violence against animals for sustinance, he will justify violence against his fellow man for all manner of other reasons.
How's that for a different set of ethics?;)

I'll do you one better: If/when we are able to voyage to the stars, I bet we'll define "intelligent" life in one of two ways: our ability to make war against them, or our ability to engage in commerce with them (and property rights are, of course, enforced by the threat of war).
 
I object when these people claim moral superiority. It isn't a superior set of ethics to carnivores/omnivores, just different.
I have a theory: As long as man can justify violence against animals for sustinance, he will justify violence against his fellow man for all manner of other reasons.
How's that for a different set of ethics?;)

Plants are life-forms too. Simply easier to catch. This is an honest, friendly inquiry: why do you see animals and plants as different? Both have life, and responses to external stimuli. Is it because we can exist without meat but (obviously) not without plants? :)
 
I eat meat and I love it. I make no attempt to hide that. Meat has nutrients my body needs, and it TASTES GOOD. Why the hell SHOULDN'T I eat it?

As Ron White said, "I didn't claw my way to the top of the fuckin' food chain to eat carrots."
 
Ok, so this is a subject that tends to cause a big debate, so I'll just say what has been said in my nutrition class at school.

The #1 reason for becoming a Vegan or Vegetarian is religion.

Beyond that, one of you mentioned that meat gives you an upset stomach. More then likely you're body lacks the enzyme that breaks down meat proteins.

As for which is better, both have their merits and drawbacks. For vegans, you can end up with various vitamin and mineral deficiencies. Best thing to do is eat fortified foods.

My personal opinion is that our bodies were designed to eat a wide variety of food, including meat. Milk, especially into adulthood, is technically unnatural, but our bodies have adapted to it. Beyond that, we have teeth designed to both tear and chew meat, and to chew plant based foods. We have enzymes that process both. We do need fat in our diet, as there are several vitamins that our body needs the fat in able to process them. Vitamin A is one of them. The problem is in today's scociety we've become to inactive, and the amount of food we eat has gone up. Refined sugar is also a problem, almost everything today contains it from the snickers bar, to the hot pockets.

The bottom line, and the biggest thing that our studies have told us, is that whichever lifestyle you choose, your best bet is a large variety of foods, in moderate amounts.
 
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