Most Popular Trek Films According to TrekBBS Denizens

[Nyotarules]

13 points - 2009
12 points - FC
11 points - TUC
10 points - ID
9 points - TWOK
8 points - TVH
7 points - TSFS
6 points - BEY
5 points - INS
4 points- NEM
3 points - TFF
2 points - GEN
1 point - TMP

 

[Greg Cox]

Okay, I'll play.

13 - WOK
12 - TVH
11 - TUC
10 - FC
9 - 2009
8 -TSFS
7- BEY
6 - TMP
5- GEN
4 - ID
3 - INS
2 - NEM
1- TFF

I confess, I go back and forth on whether FC outranks 2009 or the other way around, and when you get down to the bottom depths things get fuzzier since, for obvious reasons, I almost never watch those ones.

 

[Trelane_Squire_of_Gothos]

I agree that Kirk's arc in the Kelvin movies is the core to what it's all about. It may be off-putting to fans who wanted their well-known and classic Kirk...but this is one of the few characters (maybe the only character) who grew up totally differently in the new timeline, and therefore had a much different journey through life. You have to expect that his personality and values are going to be very different than what we knew in the Prime timeline....

To me, this is one of the most interesting aspects of the Kelvin films.

However, Khan existed long before Kirk's father was born, and therefore should be the same in the Kelvin films.

 

[dupersuper]

Definitely some interesting discussion so far.

One of my take-aways is that people have "dislike" for some percentage of the Trek movies a lot more than I do. While the exercise forces you to rank/weigh your favorite to least-favorite, and thus forces me to have some "bottom picks..." the only Trek movie I really don't appreciate is INS, and even that I find has some redeeming qualities and I do re-watch it from time-to-time.

I outright dislike my bottom three (Insurrection, Into Darkness and Nemesis), and may have included Generations in that if the Shatnerverse novels didn't retroactively undo Kirk's death for me. I at least like all the others, and love the top 5 or so.

I agree that Kirk's arc in the Kelvin movies is the core to what it's all about. It may be off-putting to fans who wanted their well-known and classic Kirk

To me it was less that I wanted classic Kirk and more that this was reinforcing to general audience that this cliched version was an accurate portrayal of classic Kirk, spreading the pop culture notion that the internet meme version is accurate.

 

[Sakonna]

Though I'm a big fan of Into Darkness, there is one way in which it's the worst Trek film by a mile -- that idiotic title! It's so embarrassing!

 

[Vger23]

We close this sucker out tomorrow for tallying.

Get yer rankings in kiddos!!

@Ray Hardgrit are you still doing the maths?

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

@Ray Hardgrit are you still doing the maths?

Yeah, I'll handle the numbers.

 

[Vger23]

Yeah, I'll handle the numbers.

As I suspected...a man of his word right here.

 

[fireproof78]

However, Khan existed long before Kirk's father was born, and therefore should be the same in the Kelvin films.

Except, not because he was awoken, manipulated and blackmailed after traveling in to the Future.

 

[Trelane_Squire_of_Gothos]

Except, not because he was awoken, manipulated and blackmailed after traveling in to the Future.

He went from a middle eastern character to a British/Anglo guy. They were extremely different incarnations of the character. Nothing explains that away.

 

[fireproof78]

He went from a middle eastern character to a British/Anglo guy. They were extremely different incarnations of the character. Nothing explains that away.

"John Harrison was a fiction created by your Admiral Marcus. "

Yes, there is.

 

[Trelane_Squire_of_Gothos]

"John Harrison was a fiction created by your Admiral Marcus. "

Yes, there is.

That only suggests he is not "John Harrison." He is Khan.

Are you saying it suggests Marcus further genetically manipulated Khan more to be the "John Harrison" persona? I think it is a weak explanation, and production should have put in a method actor who better looked and acted the part of the Khan we know. "John Harrison" was a wholly unfamiliar and unsatisfying incarnation of Khan.

 

[fireproof78]

That only suggests he is not "John Harrison." He is Khan.

Are you saying it suggests Marcus further genetically manipulated Khan more to be the "John Harrison" persona? I think it is a weak explanation, and production should have put in a method actor who better looked at acted the part of the Khan we know.

They tried. Cumberbatch was second choice.

And I am suggesting Marcus did cosmetic surgery to a person to conceal his work. You know, like Star Trek does.

 

[Tosk]

actor who better looked at acted the part

Benicio Del Toro was first pick and could have been really great. When they couldn't get him, they decided "Ah, let's just get whichever white guy is popular right now instead."

 

[fireproof78]

Benicio Del Toro was first pick and could have been really great. When they couldn't get him, they decided "Ah, let's just get whichever white guy is popular right now instead."

More who was available at the time they wanted to start filming.

 

[Vger23]

I feel like BC doesn't get enough credit for playing the role in Into Darkness. Was the decision to make the villain "Khan" a questionable one? Yeah sure. Was the casting of that character questionable given the ethnicity and background of said character? Yeah absolutely.

Is any of that Benedict Cumberbatch's fault? No, of course not...and in a vacuum, I think he actually did a really nice job.

 

[fireproof78]

I feel like BC doesn't get enough credit for playing the role in Into Darkness. Was the decision to make the villain "Khan" a questionable one? Yeah sure. Was the casting of that character questionable given the ethnicity and background of said character? Yeah absolutely.

Is any of that Benedict Cumberbatch's fault? No, of course not...and in a vacuum, I think he actually did a really nice job.

Cumberbatch is excellent in my opinion. Even as Khan there is a coldness in him that is reflective of the intensity of the emotions he is trying to keep under control until he thinks he has lost everything.

It's genuinely good character work.

 

[Vger23]

Cumberbatch is excellent in my opinion. Even as Khan there is a coldness in him that is reflective of the intensity of the emotions he is trying to keep under control until he thinks he has lost everything.

It's genuinely good character work.

When he is on screen in Into Darkness, it's downright impossible not to be 100% focused on him.

That, to me, is pretty damn good work by an actor, especially in a movie like this where there are a TON of things going on that could otherwise distract you.

 

[Tosk]

Personally I could have done without his jaw-centric o-ver e-nun-ci-ation, but that's just me.

 

[fireproof78]

Personally I could have done without his jaw-centric o-ver e-nun-ci-ation, but that's just me.

You probably wouldn't enjoy how I speak.