Most overrated actor?

[Timewalker]

Really. And which roles have you seen him in? Any Shakespeare?

Examples of what I've seen him in: Dune; TNG; the X-Men movies; the movie where he plays a guy with dementia who thinks everyone is out to get him. How exactly did his acting differ one iota in any of these roles?

I've seen him in Dune, TNG, and the ones I previously listed. I never saw him in the X-Men movies, so can't compare.

Why do you say his acting doesn't differ from one role to another? There is one heckuva difference between a starship captain and a one-man show of A Christmas Carol.

And how can you not say he's a great actor? I couldn't have pulled off toting that stupid pug dog all over Dune, with a straight face!

 

[teya]

I think Jeri Ryan's somewhat overrated; she suffers from Voyager fans hailing her as God's gift to the acting craft. She's quite good, but not an unparalleled thespian.

Funny, I would think that an actress known as "38 of DD" or "the Borg Bimbo" or any other of the clever names folks ascribe to her, isn't being touted for her acting prowess.

If a few fans overrate her, it's been my experience that more underrate her.

Your mileage obviously varies.

 

[JM1776]

Funny, I would think that an actress known as "38 of DD" or "the Borg Bimbo" or any other of the clever names folks ascribe to her, isn't being touted for her acting prowess.

See, I never felt such was directed at Ryan, but rather those who'd crammed her into that costume.

If I were her, I'd have said, "You payin' me? Let's get me into this thing. Where's my teflon skivvies?"

You've actually heard me praise Ryan's work more than once, so ... let's not lump me in with the haters.

If a few fans overrate her, it's been my experience that more underrate her.

I recall that Richard Burton was voted both the best and worst actor of all time in the same poll. Perhaps a similiar principle applies here, on a much smaller scale.

Your mileage obviously varies.

Perhaps I just spent too much time in the Voyager forum once upon a time.

She might well be an answer of mine were someone to ask about underrated performers, too ... but that wasn't the question.

 

[teya]

Funny, I would think that an actress known as "38 of DD" or "the Borg Bimbo" or any other of the clever names folks ascribe to her, isn't being touted for her acting prowess.

See, I never felt such was directed at Ryan, but rather those who'd crammed her into that costume.

Since the derision is entirely based on what she looks like, it's not a stretch to think it's directed at her.

You've actually heard me praise Ryan's work more than once, so ... let's not lump me in with the haters.

I'm not. I'm just disagreeing with you that she's overrated.

 

[Eric Cheung]

Incorrect

Jeffrey Combs on Wikipedia: On September 11, 2001, a man named Jeffrey Coombs (note the extra 'o' in the last name) was aboard hijacked American Airlines Flight 11, which was later crashed into the World Trade Center. Having been confused with the passenger on the jet, Combs the actor was pronounced dead by news media outlets and had to announce publicly that he was still alive.

Another tipoff that Combs isn't dead: He appeared in episodes of Enterprise in seasons 2, 3, and 4, all filmed long after 9/11. And he's going to be at Creation Vegas next month!

Yeah, my original intention was admittedly sarcasm as I was of course aware that Combs was alive for his wonderful performance as Shran. It was just sort of a snarky spelling correction post. I guess the joke didn't come across because it's text and perhaps a little subtle.

But again, I don't think too many Star Trek actors are overrated. If anything I think the acting on Star Trek gets taken for granted at times.

 

[blockaderunner]

I think they all are to one degree or another. The less overrated ones are less grating on my nerves, while the more overrated ones are...well..it's obvious. I know Trek fans often like to say that an actor's skill shouldn't be judged on the output, or lack of, non-Trek roles, but come on. Not all actors can use the excuse of bad agents, or a "love for the theatre". Bad is bad. Good in bit parts and supporting roles? Sure. But as leads in major projects? Not so much.

 

[pookha]

Really. And which roles have you seen him in? Any Shakespeare?

Examples of what I've seen him in: Dune; TNG; the X-Men movies; the movie where he plays a guy with dementia who thinks everyone is out to get him. How exactly did his acting differ one iota in any of these roles?

you need to see him in i claudius

 

[asdf1]

Good lord, i read the first post on this thread and was disgusted. I couldn't believe what i was reading.

I'll agree with you on Shatner, but that's about it.

 

[indranee]

Connor Trinneer and John De Lancie.

 

[EEE]

(though I can't speak for Coombs as he died on 9/11 and I'm not aware of his work, but I love Jeffrey Combs' performances.)

Incorrect

Jeffrey Combs on Wikipedia: On September 11, 2001, a man named Jeffrey Coombs (note the extra 'o' in the last name) was aboard hijacked American Airlines Flight 11, which was later crashed into the World Trade Center. Having been confused with the passenger on the jet, Combs the actor was pronounced dead by news media outlets and had to announce publicly that he was still alive.

The problem with the public announcement being that no one should trust anything a Vorta or a Ferrengi says. Although, I'd trust an Andorian's word.

Anyway, I disagree with many of the assessments above. Therefore, those I disagree with are obviously wrong and are very probably nothing more than intermittant channeling of Siskel, who seemed to hate everything.

 

[Nardpuncher]

There seem to be quite a few fans here with their fingers in their ears because it is kind of tough to think that some of the actors you've been watching are just not that good. Then they start insulting the ones who disagree with them. Bravo! I hate how few posts it takes here for fans who should be more unified to start bullying each other.

It may be true also that Trek may not bring the best out of an actor. What is the right way to say " Photonic bursts show no actinity on the Borg ship"?

 

[M'Sharak]

Good lord, i read the first post on this thread and was disgusted. I couldn't believe what i was reading.

I'll agree with you on Shatner, but that's about it.

You're presuming that the OP was being completely serious, about which I have my doubts.


On topic, in as much seriousness as it merits: Stewart

He's good on some things, but there's no way he's as good as some make him out to be, RSC credentials or no. Dwight Schultz could (and did) act circles around him, for one thing.

 

[Keith1701]

Shatner is the most overrated, no question. Nobody's as good as they say he is.

Very, Very, True.....

 

[EEE]

It may be true also that Trek may not bring the best out of an actor. What is the right way to say " Photonic bursts show no actinity on the Borg ship"?

That's a trick question! There is no way to say "actinity" correctly!

I think this whole thread is absurd anyway. It's the tomato pronunciation argument. (come to think of it, a vast majority of threads with more than one page are probably the same thing?)

 

[SFRabid]

The most overrated actor in this thread is MadBaggins. While he thinks highly of himself the only role he plays well is troll.

 

[Python Trek]

The Trek leads are all good, IMO. Sometimes the guest actors, especially those in bit parts, are weak. Sometimes you'll get some stiff, awkward line readings from a Red Shirt, but that's about it.

Every now and then, a lead will eff up, like Siddig playing "possessed" in DS9's season 1 ep., "The Passenger", or Shat's attempt at Janice Lester.......but mostly the Trek dudes are great. It's the writing that often fails, not the acting.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

The most overrated actor in this thread is MadBaggins. While he thinks highly of himself the only role he plays well is troll.

Please don't accuse other posters of being trolls

 

[Gary Mitchell]

Garrett Wang: If the whites were annoyed by him, but thought that he was "the savior" for Asian Americans in the media, they are clearly WRONG! Most Asian Americans either:

1.) Did not even know who he was because they did not watch Star Trek.
2.) "Garrett Who?"
3.) Discussions of Asians in the media revolved around Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan, Jet Li, Lucy Liu, Chow Yun-Fat, Ziyi Zhang, Michelle Yeoh, John Cho, Margaret Cho, etc. but NONE of my Asian and Asian American friends ever brought him up. They just simply did not know who he was. He might as well have been Rocky "The Pussy" Red Ranger of Mighty Morphin Power Rangers for all we care...

The character of Harry Kim was to Star Trek what Adam Powell was to "Charles in Charge," and more people know who Adam Powell is compared to Garrett Wang when they don't even know who Adam Powell is in the first place? So, don't go off thinking that Garrett Wang is like the "Kanye West" of Asian Americans, because he sure ain't...he was never a contender. Not even worthy of a trivia question on Trivial Pursuit.

He was a hired token...like one of those things you put in the slot machines to "bop the beaver" at Chuck E. Cheese!

What does any of this have to do with Garrett Wang's acting? And why would anyone think he was the "savior for Asian Americans"?

 

[Captain Leslie]

Ive seen Patrick Stewart on stage in a few plays....He's pure Yorkshire ham!
I always though he was a weak point in TNG... William Shatner wasnt a great actor but as Kirk it just worked, fabulously!

 

[Rhaenys]

Ive seen Patrick Stewart on stage in a few plays....He's pure Yorkshire ham!
I always though he was a weak point in TNG...

Parick Stewart may be a little overrated (but I still think he is a great actor, one of the best actors in ST), but a weak point in TNG?
You have Crosby, Wheaton, Frakes, Sirtis and McFadden, and Stewart is the weak point? No way.