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Any references to the recent Leonard McCoy: Frontier Doctor series set shortly before TPM?

I wish I could've fit that in, but there are some continuity issues that precluded it. Frontier Doctor has a story arc that's a sequel to pretty much all of Byrne's prior IDW miniseries, including his Romulan stories that are inconsistent with Vanguard and other Pocket-continuity tales about that era. Also, it portrays Admiral Kirk directly supervising the Enterprise refit, even though TMP made it clear that he was completely unfamiliar with the refitted ship.

Anyway, it's not like I'm going to list everything I made references to. That would spoil the experience of discovering them in the book itself.
 
in MA:TDDA, I was able to have it both ways; since there's a gap of about 12 years between TMP & TWOK, that left me a lot of time after that second 5-year mission in which to give the Enterprise a greater variety in its mission profiles.

Christopher said:
the scenario I established for that period in MA:TDDA, in which the Enterprise is Admiral Kirk's personal flagship commanded by Captain Spock and is sometimes sent on special missions with Kirk in command.

But you also have to be consistent with the references in Star Trek: Generations were it's established that Kirk left Starfleet for a few years while he was dating Antonia, then returned to the service in/around 2284. That affects stories in this time period as well.
 
But you also have to be consistent with the references in Star Trek: Generations were it's established that Kirk left Starfleet for a few years while he was dating Antonia, then returned to the service in/around 2284. That affects stories in this time period as well.

That's covered in Mere Anarchy: The Darkness Drops Again. The last couple of sections of the story take place during Kirk's retirement. But we know that Kirk was only retired for two years; he said in GEN that he met Antonia 11 years before and returned to Starfleet 9 years before, making it 2282-84. So there's still a good four years between the end of the second 5YM and Kirk's retirement, plus another year between his return to Starfleet and TWOK.
 
Any references to the recent Leonard McCoy: Frontier Doctor series set shortly before TPM?

I wish I could've fit that in, but there are some continuity issues that precluded it. Frontier Doctor has a story arc that's a sequel to pretty much all of Byrne's prior IDW miniseries, including his Romulan stories that are inconsistent with Vanguard and other Pocket-continuity tales about that era. Also, it portrays Admiral Kirk directly supervising the Enterprise refit, even though TMP made it clear that he was completely unfamiliar with the refitted ship.
Ever since he included, or referenced, I can't remember for sure which, a Klingon Emperor in one of his Romulan issues, I've pretty much shunted his stuff. I've wondered how that got through CBS ever since, because AFAIK that is a pretty blatant contradiction of what was established about the Empire in TNG.
 
Ever since he included, or referenced, I can't remember for sure which, a Klingon Emperor in one of his Romulan issues, I've pretty much shunted his stuff. I've wondered how that got through CBS ever since, because AFAIK that is a pretty blatant contradiction of what was established about the Empire in TNG.

Well, that could be worked around, given that we know canonically that Klingon Chancellors including Gowron rewrite the empire's history to suit themselves. So Gowron's statements about Klingon history are not necessarily trustworthy. Or it could be that there was a High Council leader who dubbed himself an emperor but whom later Klingon historians refused to acknowledge as such since he didn't have a legitimate claim.

But there are other reasons the "Byrneverse" doesn't fit with the novelverse, like its version of the events surrounding "Balance of Terror" and the identity of the Romulan Praetor at the time vs. what Vanguard established about same.
 
Ever since he included, or referenced, I can't remember for sure which, a Klingon Emperor in one of his Romulan issues, I've pretty much shunted his stuff. I've wondered how that got through CBS ever since, because AFAIK that is a pretty blatant contradiction of what was established about the Empire in TNG.

Well, that could be worked around, given that we know canonically that Klingon Chancellors including Gowron rewrite the empire's history to suit themselves. So Gowron's statements about Klingon history are not necessarily trustworthy. Or it could be that there was a High Council leader who dubbed himself an emperor but whom later Klingon historians refused to acknowledge as such since he didn't have a legitimate claim.

But there are other reasons the "Byrneverse" doesn't fit with the novelverse, like its version of the events surrounding "Balance of Terror" and the identity of the Romulan Praetor at the time vs. what Vanguard established about same.
Oh, I didn't know about the Chancellor's rewritting the Empire's history like that.
 
Oh, I didn't know about the Chancellor's rewritting the Empire's history like that.

See TNG: "Unification, Part 1." Technically, Worf only said that Gowron had been rewriting Klingon history, but the way he said it suggested to me that it was a familiar, standard practice for chancellors. Maybe I'm reading too much into that, but at least it establishes a precedent that what is alleged about Klingon history may be inaccurate -- especially if it comes from Gowron's own mouth, as the claim about having no emperor for three centuries did.
 
See TNG: "Unification, Part 1." Technically, Worf only said that Gowron had been rewriting Klingon history, but the way he said it suggested to me that it was a familiar, standard practice for chancellors.

Yep. Also fits with the K'Ehleyr stuff that Klingon women couldn't serve on the Klingon Council - and then ST VI introduced us to Azetbur, who took Gorkon's place as Chancellor.
 
Yep. Also fits with the K'Ehleyr stuff that Klingon women couldn't serve on the Klingon Council - and then ST VI introduced us to Azetbur, who took Gorkon's place as Chancellor.

I think you mean Lursa and B'Etor, not K'Ehleyr. In "Reunion," Gowron actually offered K'Ehleyr a seat on the High Council if she'd back him. Though it was only 19 episodes later, in "Redemption," that Gowron claimed "Women may not serve on the Council." (He was probably insincere in his offer to K'Ehleyr, though.)

Azetbur has no bearing on the question one way or another, because she served more than seven decades earlier, and Gowron's statement was in the present tense, not the past.
 
Gowron claimed "Women may not serve on the Council."

That's the line, yes. Fans kept asking, "But what about the offer to K'Ehleyr?" I know it has no bearing on Azetbur, but it works as a possible example of how written history can be changed by the current victors.
 
^I don't see how that applies to history. It could be that the existing laws at the time did bar women from serving on the Council, but Gowron's offer to K'Ehleyr was implicitly an offer to repeal that law. (And we know that in the novelverse, the ban on women was passed just after the end of Azetbur's reign to ensure that a woman would not be chancellor again.)
 
^I don't see how that applies...

Forget I even spoke. I shoulda known better than to toss a few distant memories of fan after-dinner discussions from decades past. I guess you had to be there.

(And we know that in the novelverse, the ban on women was passed just after the end of Azetbur's reign to ensure that a woman would not be chancellor again.)

If I'd read that one yet.
 
I think the uniforms are fine. They have a lot of variety and strike me more as both practical and futuristic attire than any other uniforms we've seen. The only change I'd make is to make the colors a little more vivid, but not too much. (And improve the lighting in the bridge so the uniform colors aren't so washed out in those scenes.)

Ditto that. I always loved those uniforms, and always will.
 
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