I've had that thought as well.
MontalKhan, brownfaced?
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I should apologize then. I took the original post as questioning the morality of an activity that, at that time, was common, but now would be unacceptable. I should have read it more as general curiosity.
I thought he was named after a friend of GR's?
No it is an alternate reality, a different universe. So the Khan in that universe could have a different appearance, they aren't the same person.
It's a reboot, so everything is different, no need to apologize.
Nope on both. The split happens at Kirk's birth/Nero's arrival. Everything prior that is the same. Any differences are due to "artistic license".
According to the writers, it is a branch of the main universe. Hence, Khan is Khan and Data's head is buried under San Francisco.
According to the writers, it is a branch of the main universe. Hence, Khan is Khan and Data's head is buried under San Francisco.
Won't that be a crazy episode in Abrams Trek?
Also, is plastic surgery really all that odd for an explanation as to Cumberbatch's Khan? Seriously, it seems simple enough to me
Or, maybe Harrison is not Khan at all, but rather one of his followers who adopted his leader's name when Khan was executed by Section 31 for noncompliance.
I should start a business of filling in plot holes. I think I could make some money.
I read the novelization just after seeing the movie, and Khan's monologue is phrased a little differently.
Somehow that initially managed to give me the impression that he'd always been intended to have been 'Face-Offed'. I didn't realize otherwise until I went on the 'net.
Somehow that initially managed to give me the impression that he'd always been intended to have been 'Face-Offed'. I didn't realize otherwise until I went on the 'net.
Which Spock is that, Alternate universe Quinto Spock or Alternate universe Spock that looks like our Spock?
I would like to see a Star Trek story based on the "Council of Reeds" from Marvel comics, a "Council of Spocks" Spocks from each universe convene to discuss their various universe's problems.
Yes. Montalban's voice and delivery was a key part of what made Khan memorable. Cumberbach has a distinctive voice (hence Smaug) but it's just not in the same realm as Montalban's latin-lover vibe.
With Alice Eve, it's more of a character background issue, as Bibi Besch had such a middle-American vibe to her that Alice Eve's strong accent clashes in a big way.
I have no clue and have lived in the Midwest most of my life.
Enjoy the read.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_American
I'll tell ya one thing, it's light-years away from Alice Eve's accent. On her wiki page it lists her as being able to do an American accent (in Big Nothing with Simon Pegg) which makes it that much clearer that they didn't care about continuity.
My wife really isn't a Star Trek fan, but loves movies in general. The other day we're watching The Wrath of Khan and she comments what a good job they did with picking Alice Eve to play the younger Carol Marcus.
Now you may say: "big fucking deal". Which is cool. But my wife was raised in Alabama and had a deep southern accent when she moved here. Now? Twenty years later? You couldn't tell she had ever been anywhere but here in the Tri-State area.
Accents come and go.
Ahem, from that link:
So in other words, it means nothing in particular. It's just a twang that a couple of different accents have in common, but even amongst those it's not consistent. And the article you linked to comments that it's also seen as a buzzword that was coined merely for vague and reasonably uninformed comparisons.
That article also mentions nothing about 'Middle America.'
This conversation feels very familiar. I seem to recall similar complaints falling down when it was pointed out that modern accents shouldn't exist 'in universe' in Star Trek at all, someone mentioning every damn alien in the Galaxy has either a British or 'middle American' accent, the oh-so French Picard was brought up...etc etc.
And it's also not a continuity problem. Even if Prime Marcus was born in the States and had a 'general american' accent, there's an in-universe reason why Nu-Marcus doesn't have to have one, besides the actors simply changing. Thanks to diverging timelines, this Marcus lead a different life that included being raised in England - which is confirmed in the deleted scenes. It's no more ignoring continuity than Kirk and Spock having each lost a parent, and Uhura's hair now being worn longer.
So in other words, it means nothing in particular. It's just a twang that a couple of different accents have in common, but even amongst those it's not consistent. And the article you linked to comments that it's also seen as a buzzword that was coined merely for vague and reasonably uninformed comparisons.
That article also mentions nothing about 'Middle America.'
This conversation feels very familiar. I seem to recall similar complaints falling down when it was pointed out that modern accents shouldn't exist 'in universe' in Star Trek at all, someone mentioning every damn alien in the Galaxy has either a British or 'middle American' accent, the oh-so French Picard was brought up...etc etc.
And it's also not a continuity problem. Even if Prime Marcus was born in the States and had a 'general american' accent, there's an in-universe reason why Nu-Marcus doesn't have to have one, besides the actors simply changing. Thanks to diverging timelines, this Marcus lead a different life that included being raised in England - which is confirmed in the deleted scenes. It's no more ignoring continuity than Kirk and Spock having each lost a parent, and Uhura's hair now being worn longer.
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