I bought Pine from the get-go, but that last scene had me cheering. Good work, Chris!!!
Moments where you knew you were seeing Kirk and not Chris Pine.
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overall i think pine did rather well but there were some monents i especially liked..
the expressions when he meets bones...
kirk would often give bones looks when bones would start off.
the koybashi maru..
a lot of stuff when he, spock prime meet scotty.
the he is from the future and i am not sounds like the type of stuff kirk would quip at times.
yeah the confrontation on the bridge also reminded me of this side of paradise.
addressing the crew as he takes command and later when he tells spock he wont let him go alone.
the expressions when he meets bones...
kirk would often give bones looks when bones would start off.
the koybashi maru..
a lot of stuff when he, spock prime meet scotty.
the he is from the future and i am not sounds like the type of stuff kirk would quip at times.
yeah the confrontation on the bridge also reminded me of this side of paradise.
addressing the crew as he takes command and later when he tells spock he wont let him go alone.
Damn! I never even thought of that before. You're right!
Exactly. Whether it was intentional or not on Shatner's part, the heroic bravado that he brought to the role became an integral part of the character and his psyche. For better or worse, it's an essential part of the character that Abrams & Pine must embrace in order to stay true to the character.
I'd agree that some of Pine's best scenes included when he first met Bones and the Kobayashi Maru scene. "I got your gun" kinda reminds me of some moments from the fight with Commander Kruge in Star Trek III. I never really thought about the parallels with "This Side of Paradise" when he makes Spock angry. I'll need to rewatch that episode.
One of my favorites was the bar scene. Pretty much from his first scene in the film, I thought Pine exhibited the capacity for the kind of swagger that defines Kirk.
IMO, the most un-Kirk-like moment in the film, for me, was the bit on the ice planet where he's being chased by the giant monsters. Throughout that scene, he has this, "Oh shit, I'm gonna die!" look on his face. That's the one emotion that I can't recall Shatner's Kirk ever expressing. (He's the man who, I think, sincerely believed that he was never going to die right up until that last moment on Veridian III when he whispered, "Oh my.")
Naw, Shatner said in interviews that the "oh my" was meant as maybe finally understanding "the great mystery" in the face of death as opposed to realizing that he was, in fact, dying.
Oh my gosh, when Kirk tells Sulu that if he sees Enterprise has a tactical advantage, to fire on the Narada even if they were still on board. That is something I swear Kirk has said in either the TV show or one of the movies. It so sounded Kirk/Shatner-like.
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Acting aside, when Kirk was on the Narada being choked by some Romulan, I could have sworn they'd CGI'd Shatner's head into the scene solely to freak me out.
Mission accomplished, gentlemen.
Mission accomplished, gentlemen.
The real confirming moment for me was when Kirk tried to be charitable towards Nero. And then Spock was happy Nero refused. Kinda confirmed both characters there for me - the bad boy shows the greatness of his soul; the perfect Starfleet officer shows his darker side. Well on their way to well-rounded-characterhood.
Threre is brief moment where Pine leans over a console--maybe the transporter room--and the glow of the console is reflected in his face. It reminded me a lot of Kirk's monologue in "This Side of Paradise" where he says "I cant leave!"
That whole part was serious deja vu to me. It seems like every other episode or movie some badguy grabs Kirk by the throat and lifts him up in the air. Him outsmarting a gloating attacker is pure Kirk.
I felt that way when Spock had him around the neck, with his back on the console. I could have sworn i saw shatners face there...even mentioned that months ago on some other thread here. it was FREAKY!
His smirk.
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Did you actually see Shatner's Kirk in the movie
^ i dont think they actually superimposed his face, but something about that moment, made me see Shatner's face.
You weren't seeing things. I thought Pine really looked like Shat right then too. I didn't catch it until the third of fourth time, but I do remember thinking 'wow, that really looks like young Shat there'.
^ Alrik, you just totally made my day. I am so glad to hear it wasnt just me!
I bought Pine & this cast right away, probably because I'm not as attached to TOS. But if I had to pick some key moments:
*The bar scene with Uhura and then Pike definitely showed his cocky, confident side, but also Pine's own, deeper take on Kirk's life as changed by his father's death.
*His interaction with both Urban's McCoy & Quinto's Spock showed that the famed chemistry of that trio is still intact.
*I think Pine did an overall great job show the natural leadership ability of Kirk from challenging Spock on their next course of action, to actually being acting captain, to the end when he finally wears the gold shirt.
I know some fans wanted Pine's Kirk to be exactly like Shatner's Kirk, but I don't understand that given the huge difference in his life without his father. I think Pine had to show that difference in the character and his choices in that regard worked very well in my opinion, of course. Not to mention I prefer Pine's acting style to Shatner's, but that's neither here nor there. I just think that the actors' job in this new movie series is to find the essences of the original characters, not solely imitate the actors playing the characters, as well find some new nuances/depths to portray as the story dictates/permits.
Although, I will say that Urban's McCoy was an inspired piece of inhabiting both the character & original actor, but it worked because McCoy's life & personality, as far as we know, is unchanged by the new timeline.
*The bar scene with Uhura and then Pike definitely showed his cocky, confident side, but also Pine's own, deeper take on Kirk's life as changed by his father's death.
*His interaction with both Urban's McCoy & Quinto's Spock showed that the famed chemistry of that trio is still intact.
*I think Pine did an overall great job show the natural leadership ability of Kirk from challenging Spock on their next course of action, to actually being acting captain, to the end when he finally wears the gold shirt.
I know some fans wanted Pine's Kirk to be exactly like Shatner's Kirk, but I don't understand that given the huge difference in his life without his father. I think Pine had to show that difference in the character and his choices in that regard worked very well in my opinion, of course. Not to mention I prefer Pine's acting style to Shatner's, but that's neither here nor there. I just think that the actors' job in this new movie series is to find the essences of the original characters, not solely imitate the actors playing the characters, as well find some new nuances/depths to portray as the story dictates/permits.
Although, I will say that Urban's McCoy was an inspired piece of inhabiting both the character & original actor, but it worked because McCoy's life & personality, as far as we know, is unchanged by the new timeline.
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I bought Pine as Kirk from the get go. It wasn't even half way through the bantering with Uhura that I was already sold on the fact that I was watching a young JTK hitting on a young Uhura.
Even though I saw the new movie first, I had a really hard time with Kirk. Not trying to flame anyone or anything, but I disliked him very much, to be honest. He's grown on me through reading discussions about him (and, well, he is a rather pretty thing 
), but I came away from the theater seeing him as very arrogant and undeserving of the promotions he received.
It confused me very much based on what I had been told about Kirk from people who admired him. I just didn't see that leadership and benevolence for which I was looking. When I watched TOS, however, I quickly grew to love Kirk. Though Spock remains my favorite character, TOS Kirk is a captain I could happily follow. He's confident without being too cocky, he's smooth, he knows when to charge and when to play it level-headed.
Pine's Kirk just seemed out-of-control to me. I'm assuming now it's because the movie starts before Kirk is captain and, of course, he must grow into the role. I like Pine and hope to see a slightly more mature Kirk in the next movie as he continues to handle the responsibility of leading the Enterprise crew.
As many people mentioned already, the moment where I started to "buy it" was at the very end, when Kirk strides onto the bridge-- in particular, when he accepted Spock as first officer.
), but I came away from the theater seeing him as very arrogant and undeserving of the promotions he received. It confused me very much based on what I had been told about Kirk from people who admired him. I just didn't see that leadership and benevolence for which I was looking. When I watched TOS, however, I quickly grew to love Kirk. Though Spock remains my favorite character, TOS Kirk is a captain I could happily follow. He's confident without being too cocky, he's smooth, he knows when to charge and when to play it level-headed.
Pine's Kirk just seemed out-of-control to me. I'm assuming now it's because the movie starts before Kirk is captain and, of course, he must grow into the role. I like Pine and hope to see a slightly more mature Kirk in the next movie as he continues to handle the responsibility of leading the Enterprise crew.
As many people mentioned already, the moment where I started to "buy it" was at the very end, when Kirk strides onto the bridge-- in particular, when he accepted Spock as first officer.
That's the moment for me as well. When he reveals underneath the man who's desperately looking for every edge before he slips back into the mask of...well...bravado is the perfect word. That moment, and the moment where he offers to rescue the crew of the Narada show a man who thinks about the situation and isn't just the arrogant jerk that he usually appears to be.