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Mmmm...Cardassian philosophy...

^ For me it wasn't the actual story which is written rather beautifully in AJR's inimitable style but what happens to the Cardassian people in it. It's far too negative for me to accept which affects how I view the novella.
 
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Thor Damar said:
^ Well I think that given his true fathers dissident sympathies, Rugal may find the Oralian way easier to find than your average Cardassian...
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Quite possible...I can even see Pa'Dar deliberately exposing his son to the Oralians, as a way of showing him that there's more to the Cardassian people than just brutality. (Since sadly, something tells me Rugal won't respond to Pa'Dar himself, for a long time.) I don't think Rugal would convert--but find some respect for the Oralians? Maybe so. I'd like to hope, anyway.

That said if the Cardassian revolution of 2372 isn't shown in NES with all the repressions thereof then I shall be quite dismayed.
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Indeed--that's something I'm looking forward to seeing as well.
 
Nerys Ghemor said:
Thor Damar said:
^ Well I think that given his true fathers dissident sympathies, Rugal may find the Oralian way easier to find than your average Cardassian...
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Quite possible...I can even see Pa'Dar deliberately exposing his son to the Oralians, as a way of showing him that there's more to the Cardassian people than just brutality. (Since sadly, something tells me Rugal won't respond to Pa'Dar himself, for a long time.) I don't think Rugal would convert--but find some respect for the Oralians? Maybe so. I'd like to hope, anyway..
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That's what I was thinking :)

Nerys Ghemor said:
Thor Damar said:
That said if the Cardassian revolution of 2372 isn't shown in NES with all the repressions thereof then I shall be quite dismayed.
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Indeed--that's something I'm looking forward to seeing as well.
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I'm pretty certain it will be shown. I think the purpose of the book is to show all the major events on Cardassia from 2370-76, though mostly from Rugal's viewpoint. Given that Pa'Dar serves the civilian government, I'm betting we'll see a lot of the revolution. He'll probably play a large role...until Dukat takes over the government a year and a half later. Uh oh. I'm not at all convinced Pa'Dar will survive the book.
 
Thor Damar said:
^ For me it wasn't the actual story which is written rather beautifully in AJR's inimitable style but what happens to the Cardassian people in it. It's far to negative for me to accept which affects how I view the novella.
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Ah, I see. Hmmm, well, maybe even if Cardassia Prime is in dire straits, perhaps the various colonies are faring better? Other Cardassians might be back on their feet, even if the capital (which got hit hardest) isn't :).
 
Nerys Ghemor said:
Yeah, I'm worried about that as well...being orphaned twice--OUCH. :(
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Here's my wild speculation, though, for how Pa'Dar might survive. If that guardsman on the cover is Rugal, maybe he joins the military to make up for whatever "crimes" Dukat accuses Pa'Dar of? Maybe his service buys Pa'Dar's life, or something? Redeems the family in service to the new Cardassian state (Dukat's)? I don't know if it would usually work that way, but Dukat probably introduced new laws and he was definitely arming for war, so...:)
 
I dunno...there's quite the case to be made that executing Pa'Dar without mercy would be the signal Dukat would want to send to the Cardassian people about the price of objecting to the powers that be. :(
 
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Thor...you should delete the fanfic discussion; I'm afraid it's not legal in this section of the forum. :(

DN--you need to take it out of your quote as well.
 
Well, I've enthusiastically discussed Cardassian stories and their interlinking themes with some fellow Cardie-fans, and found that I am definitely not alone when it comes to appreciating this part of Trek lit. :) To return to my original question, does anyone else have a thematic or philosophical link between Trek books they really, really appreciated? Something they'd be happy to gush about the way I and others have the Cardassian philosophy themes?
 
^ Yes, there are. And I've never read those books - if you want to know why, despite my obvious Romulan leanings, it's because I figured they wouldn't be done very well. But some of the threads I've read here have changed my mind. So I've just ordered the first couple of books. We'll see!
 
JustKate said:
^ Yes, there are. And I've never read those books - if you want to know why, despite my obvious Romulan leanings, it's because I figured they wouldn't be done very well. But some of the threads I've read here have changed my mind. So I've just ordered the first couple of books. We'll see!
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Read "The Good that Men Do", "Serpents Among the Ruins", "Vulcan's Heart", "Catalyst of Sorrows", "Vulcan's Soul" books one-three, and "Taking Wing". All your Romulan goodness.

The Rihannsu novels, which take place in a different (older) continuity are also very good, and the books listed above borrow a lot of their concepts.

:)
 
Well, I just ordered the Rihannsu novels...you can get them in an omnibus edition. So we'll see. The Millenium trilogy is also available in an omnibus edition (used) - I think I'm going to get that next.
 
You're getting most of the Rihannsu novels in that omnibus. The final volume, The Empty Chair, is not included.
 
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