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MLB Offseason 2010-11

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What the hell is up with Pujols and the Cardinals, anyway?

Part of it is due to the Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez contracts completely destroying the bar for player values and re-setting at an utterly ludicrous level (and God knows what's going to happen when Prince Fielder goes on the market). Another part of it is that the Cardinals have been really spinning their wheels this offseason, and it's honestly a toss-up between them and the Royals as to who's had a worse winter. Plugging Punto and Theriot in the infield is just a hilariously terrible move, and Pujols isn't happy about it.

In any event, Pujols' camp has been targeting something north of Alex Rodriguez's megadeal -- 10 years, $300 million has been tossed around. Earlier this week, the Cardinals turned around and offered 7/196, and that counter-offer was not well-received by Pujols.

The problem is that giving Pujols seven years or more is incredibly risky. Granted, he's a once-in-a-generation talent and all that, but any such contract contract has a huge potential to be an Alfonso Soriano-esque albatross by the fourth year. If you need an example, just think of what the A-Rod contract is going to look like by this time next year if his regression continues. Now, you can say that part of Rodriguez's rapid decline is because his hip is shot, and that sped up the regression, and that's probably true. But in addition to his lingering elbow issues, Pujols has a history of plantar fasciitis, which is degenerative. That's a huge red flag on signing a 32-year-old Pujols into his early 40s (but Hal Steinbrenner would probably do it).
 
^Sooooo, yankee fans are killers?


Yes, it's why the Red Sox fans rightfully hate them.

I like the uninformed person who wrote this....

• Damon gets $5.25 million, plus $750K in attendance bonuses. (Don't laugh. There are a lot of Red Sox fans in Florida.)
Damon become a Yankee and the moment he did he will always be remembered for being an evil money grubbing bastard that Red Sox fans will hate forever.

I can't wait to hear the boos for Damon and Manny, it's gonig to be a good good year.

i just hope it stops snowing by then. :lol:

Link - http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/bi...n-sig?urn=mlb-310904&post_comment=1&success=1
 
The Jays may have just hosed the Angels. Vernon Wells traded for Mike Napoli?

Last year, Wells hit 31 HR with 88 RBIs, for $18 million. Napoli hit 26 HR with 68 RBI for $3.6 million. I'd call that a win.

EDIT: Seems as though Juan Riveria is going to the Jays, as well. I cannot believe we got rid of that contract, AND got two decent players in return. Well done, Alex Anthopoulos.

EDIT the second: Wow, and the Angels are taking the entirety of Wells's remaining $86 million contract. :eek: A.A. fleeced 'em good.

Want to know how I feel that we got rid of that contract?

[yt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs[/yt]
 
Yes, it's why the Red Sox fans rightfully hate them.

I like the uninformed person who wrote this....

• Damon gets $5.25 million, plus $750K in attendance bonuses. (Don't laugh. There are a lot of Red Sox fans in Florida.)
Damon become a Yankee and the moment he did he will always be remembered for being an evil money grubbing bastard that Red Sox fans will hate forever.

I can't wait to hear the boos for Damon and Manny, it's gonig to be a good good year.
Nah. Once Damon left New York, he got a much more positive reception on his next visit to Fenway. The Rays have become a nuisance to the Red Sox in recent years, but they're still nowhere near as hated as the Yankees, so I don't think Damon will get booed too badly.
 
Once a Yankee always a Yankee in my mind.

And as the saying goes the only good Yankee fan is a dead Yankee fan.
 
What the hell is up with Pujols and the Cardinals, anyway?

Part of it is due to the Crawford and Adrian Gonzalez contracts completely destroying the bar for player values and re-setting at an utterly ludicrous level (and God knows what's going to happen when Prince Fielder goes on the market). Another part of it is that the Cardinals have been really spinning their wheels this offseason, and it's honestly a toss-up between them and the Royals as to who's had a worse winter. Plugging Punto and Theriot in the infield is just a hilariously terrible move, and Pujols isn't happy about it.

In any event, Pujols' camp has been targeting something north of Alex Rodriguez's megadeal -- 10 years, $300 million has been tossed around. Earlier this week, the Cardinals turned around and offered 7/196, and that counter-offer was not well-received by Pujols.

The problem is that giving Pujols seven years or more is incredibly risky. Granted, he's a once-in-a-generation talent and all that, but any such contract contract has a huge potential to be an Alfonso Soriano-esque albatross by the fourth year. If you need an example, just think of what the A-Rod contract is going to look like by this time next year if his regression continues. Now, you can say that part of Rodriguez's rapid decline is because his hip is shot, and that sped up the regression, and that's probably true. But in addition to his lingering elbow issues, Pujols has a history of plantar fasciitis, which is degenerative. That's a huge red flag on signing a 32-year-old Pujols into his early 40s (but Hal Steinbrenner would probably do it).


I agree with you with the Pujols stuff, but how have the Adrian Gonzalez and Carl Crawford contracts thrown everything out of whack? They are not the market setting contracts for those particular positions, they are just based on the market value. Teixeira's contract was the market setter for premium first basemen, and Gonzo is actually going to make less then that. And the Crawford deal, while large (and lets not kid ourselves, he is overpaid, by a pretty large amount), was set by the absolutely ridiculous Werth deal with the Nationals. You can say both the Gonzo and Crawford deals contributed to the trend of ridiculous salaries on the rise, but neither was the trend setter.

Hell the Cardinals themselves already gave an indication to Pujols that they can spend money with the Holliday deal last year. And Im sorry, but Pujols can justify asking for an absurd amount because he is just that much better of a player.
 
I like the uninformed person who wrote this....

• Damon gets $5.25 million, plus $750K in attendance bonuses. (Don't laugh. There are a lot of Red Sox fans in Florida.)
Damon become a Yankee and the moment he did he will always be remembered for being an evil money grubbing bastard that Red Sox fans will hate forever.

I can't wait to hear the boos for Damon and Manny, it's gonig to be a good good year.

You're right, uninformed people ARE entertaining. Kinda like what you just posted. Johnny was booed while with the Yankees, true. Since then, he's been back to Fenway with the Tigers, and did just fine. Not as popular as he used to be, obviously, but a lot of the anger went away when the Yankees laundry did.

"Hate forever"? Please, get over yourself and your drama. We don't have the 2004 rings without the two of them, so if you want to hate them, please don't try to lump yourself in with the rest of us. Fun to boo him after he changed sides, but that's long since past.

Sox fans gave BILL BUCKNER a standing ovation last time he was in Fenway, I think we'll probably get over Johnny playing a couple years for the Yankees after they offered him 13 million dollars more than the Sox.

Once a Yankee always a Yankee in my mind.

And as the saying goes the only good Yankee fan is a dead Yankee fan.
:wtf:

Again, please stop associating yourself with Red Sox fans if you want to say things like that. Not a shared opinion, and you make the rest of us look like ignorant thugs.
 
And Im sorry, but Pujols can justify asking for an absurd amount because he is just that much better of a player.

Yes, and no.

He's certainly a once-in-a-lifetime talent and one of the greatest offensive players ever seen in professional baseball. With his history of production, he's justified in demanding a monster contract.

However: As I pointed out in my earlier post, not only will Pujols be 32 at the time that he signs a free-agent contract, he's going to do so with a history of elbow problems and, more importantly, plantar fasciitis, which isn't a condition that gets better. Quite the opposite: It's degenerative. Granted, the foot issue hasn't been a huge problem for the last few years, but it's there. Any team that wants to sign Pujols next winter will essentially be asked to sign him to a retirement contract. There are so many red flags with his health, though, that it's incredibly risky to do so. I'd be hesitant to sign him for even seven years, to say nothing about a ten-year deal.

He's not going to be an Alfonso Soriano / Adrian Beltre "have a massive contract year, then collapse" type of player (how the hell has Beltre successfully pulled that scam twice in his career?), but with his age and health, a Rodriguez-esque rapid decline in a few years isn't out of the question. That's my point. Any team that signs him for 7 - 10 years is essentially betting that his chronic health problems won't pose a problem, which is insanely risky, almost to the point of hitting on 17 in blackjack.
 
In other news, Jim Joyce has been banned from setting foot in the state of Arizona. :shifty:

:rolleyes:

I'm sorry, but that's not cool. I guess I like Jim Joyce a lot (And gained so much respect for him last year because of the whole incident) and there was a great piece on ESPN.com maybe a month ago about how he is dealing with the whole thing and the death threads and nice letters he's received. It's a good read, and what you said brought out a strong reaction in me.
 
I'll remember to never make another joke again, in that case. ;)

Yeah, I respected how Joyce handled that whole situation, too. He knew he messed up, and he felt terrible about it. A lot of umpires would have just said "my bad" and moved on (some of them probably wouldn't have even done that much), but you knew Joyce was pretty upset about the whole thing.
 
The sad thing is, I like Armando Galarraga, but he's at best a mediocre #3 starter. Which means that at this point the Diamondbacks have 6 starters that would be decent #3 through #5 guys vying for all five starting spots, and no real #1 or #2 starter.
 
And just like that, Mike Napoli is back in the AL West. The Rangers traded former closer Frank Francisco and cash to the Jays for Napoli.

Also, the Astros are gonna pay Wandy Rodriguez $34 million for three years?!?!? :eek:
 
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