Mistakes You Thought Were Made In OS, But Weren't

[CorporalCaptain]

With the Romulans cloaked, they could be violating the Neutral Zone all the time, and the Federation would never know. Sometimes, like in "The Deadly Years," it seems they could have been already positioned to pounce on the Enterprise, perhaps already in the Zone, waiting. Other times, not, like in "The Way to Eden."

 

[johnnybear]

The Romulan Neutral Zone can be a bit confusing I agree! I mean was the planet Eden actually located within it's boundaries or even in Romulan space itself? And if it is inside the zone why would the negotiators not have realised that? In some ways, The Way To Eden is a similar story to Star Trek:V-The Final Frontier!
JB

 

[Discofan]

TNG, DS9 and even Voyager showed us how treacherous, unreliable and deceitful savages the Romulans are. It would only make sense if they kept cloaked ships in the Neutral Zone, ready to pounce on anybody going there, even by mistake.

 

[Phaser Two]

Yes, thankfully TNG failed to neuter the Romulans. They were still pretty warlike and villainous, in a satisfying way.

 

[Discofan]

Yes, thankfully TNG failed to neuter the Romulans. They were still pretty warlike and villainous, in a satisfying way.

Yes and DS9's Cardassians were almost as bad.

 

[Phaser Two]

Yes and DS9's Cardassians were almost as bad.

Meaning still villainous and effective? I thought so, even though I'd about enough of Garak by the end. (His last line of dialogue was superb, though.)

 

[Discofan]

Meaning still villainous and effective? I thought so, even though I'd about enough of Garak by the end. (His last line of dialogue was superb, though.)

Andrew Robinson is so brilliant though that he could have played the phone book convincingly.

 

[johnnybear]

Yes, thankfully TNG failed to neuter the Romulans. They were still pretty warlike and villainous, in a satisfying way.

Except for those V-shaped foreheads!
JB

 

[Samuel]

With the Romulans cloaked, they could be violating the Neutral Zone all the time, and the Federation would never know. Sometimes, like in "The Deadly Years," it seems they could have been already positioned to pounce on the Enterprise, perhaps already in the Zone, waiting. Other times, not, like in "The Way to Eden."

In TNG's "Face of the Enemy" it is implied that the Federation has sensor systems (possibly augmented by the Tachyon Detection Grid introduced in "Redemption II") along the Neutral Zone that has a high possibility of detecting even cloaked ships.

Chances are the original outposts destroyed by the Romulans in "Balance of Terror" were in fact knocked off because they could eventually detect even cloaked Romulan ships.

Just as radar stations can detect even the most sophisticated stealth aircraft today just at shorter ranges.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Or was ceded peacefully as a result of negotiations during the same time the Romulans started using Klingon ship design.

Cede... peacefully? I'm pretty sure that any true Klingon would find that dishonorable in the extreme. They wouldn't do it, and they wouldn't trust any race that would.

 

[johnnybear]

Klingons are hunters and warriors and hate weakness in others which has been implied in every episode of Star trek that they've ever appeared in! Even in Friday's child where Kras explains to Maab about the human plan to introduce medicines to the sick while saying that his people believe only the strong should survive, indicating that they have similarities in that part of their ideology!
JB

 

[Discofan]

Klingons are hunters and warriors and hate weakness in others which has been implied in every episode of Star trek that they've ever appeared in! Even in Friday's child where Kras explains to Maab about the human plan to introduce medicines to the sick while saying that his people believe only the strong should survive, indicating that they have similarities in that part of their ideology!
JB

Yes, the Klingons have remained consistent throughout the series, in philosophy that is.

 

[johnnybear]

Yes, the Klingons have remained consistent throughout the series, in philosophy that is.

As you can probably guess, I'm a fan of the original Klingons!
JB

 

[Phaser Two]

Powders? And LLLIQ-UIDS for the sick? [contemptuous sneer]

 

[Shawnster]

Cede... peacefully? I'm pretty sure that any true Klingon would find that dishonorable in the extreme. They wouldn't do it, and they wouldn't trust any race that would.

They did sign various peace treaties.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

They did sign various peace treaties.

LIES!!! Federation LIES!!!

 

[johnnybear]

Only when it suited them of course!
JB

 

[Discofan]

As you can probably guess, I'm a fan of the original Klingons!
JB

With or without the ridges?

 

[Phaser Two]

With or without the ridges?

Good heavens, without. Interestingly I liked Worf as a standalone character. But every other ridged Klingon, aside from the reunited TOS stalwarts in DS9, mostly just annoyed me with their scenery-chewing.

 

[Discofan]

Good heavens, without. Interestingly I liked Worf as a standalone character. But every other ridged Klingon, aside from the reunited TOS stalwarts in DS9, mostly just annoyed me with their scenery-chewing.

I think their mistake was to depict the Klingons as primitive. When some like Kor could reveal themselves to being subtle and refined. Most though sounded like they belonged to a tribe of morons.