LOL, whatever. Made perfect sense to me.
Mistakes You Thought Were Made In OS, But Weren't
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LOL, whatever. Made perfect sense to me.
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Maybe it was after the Klingon/Romulan conflict of 2271 as stated in many a journal and one that Kor himself took a part in?
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Or was ceded peacefully as a result of negotiations during the same time the Romulans started using Klingon ship design.
Whether one agrees or not, I didn't find his line of thinking convoluted: Technology tends to become more advanced over time, so it is less believable for a fictional depiction of more advanced technology to be set earlier in the same overall story than a depiction of less advanced technology.
It's fiction. We should be able to adjust as the technology we use to depict that fiction becomes more advanced.
I take it you are a fan?
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Or was ceded peacefully as a result of negotiations during the same time the Romulans started using Klingon ship design.[/QUOTE]
Could be, but doubtful! This is around the time that the Klingon and Romulans became blood enemies so I guess there was no capitulation of territories on either side rather more rather a bloodbath knowing the Klingons!
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I'm comfortable that in the Kobiyashi Maru test in TWOK we were seeing a Klingon Neutral Zone policed by Klingon warships, not Klingon warships patrolling the Romulan Neutral Zone which would make no sense to me at all.
I'm not sure I understand how the Romulan Neutral Zone works anyway. There is Federation space, and there is Romulan space, and in between is this area of space that belongs to no one and is supposed to be, well, neutral. So I get that neither side is supposed to have ships in the neutral zone, but why is it that anytime a Federation vessel strays into the neutral zone, Romulan ships get to appear and start shooting at the Federation ship as if the Romulans own the neutral zone? Does it work the other way too? If a Romulan ship goes into the neutral zone, do Federation ships get to come in and shoot at them? Because if not then the neutral zone is just basically Romulan territory.
I'm not sure I understand how the Romulan Neutral Zone works anyway. There is Federation space, and there is Romulan space, and in between is this area of space that belongs to no one and is supposed to be, well, neutral. So I get that neither side is supposed to have ships in the neutral zone, but why is it that anytime a Federation vessel strays into the neutral zone, Romulan ships get to appear and start shooting at the Federation ship as if the Romulans own the neutral zone? Does it work the other way too? If a Romulan ship goes into the neutral zone, do Federation ships get to come in and shoot at them? Because if not then the neutral zone is just basically Romulan territory.
Oh, now you're invoking logic. Stop it.
I guess each species defends the neutral zone as it sees fit.
I'm still not getting the "convoluted" part.
I've always been a bit confused by the Romulan Neutral Zone, but remember Spock in BOT says entering the zone is an act of war... So, all those times Kirk enters the zone, Romulans probably detect his presence from their side, and thus are within their rights to enter and retaliate/defend...
Seems only Star Fleet is forbidden to enter the zone, just like for the cloaking device, it only Star Fleet that can't use it. Doesn't make much sense but... oh well.
It's all confusing.... They even refer to it as the *Romulan* Neutral Zone... Begs the question for its very existence.
Even among neutral, some people are more neutral than others...
Romulan denotes location, I this case.
Do the Romulans call it the Federation neutral zone?
In the series it was decided that the neutral zone itself was a buffer between both areas of space! Neither side in theory is allowed to enter the zone and soon after entering you will find yourself in Romulan space as quoted in Enterprise Incident I believe!
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SPOCK: The treaty, set by sub-space radio, established this Neutral Zone, entry into which by either side, would constitute an act of war.
So it wasn't intended to be applied unidirectionally,
Thanks for the info. For some reason I was convinced that only the Federation couldn't enter the Neutral Zone.
Despite this, it seems that the Romulans got to tool around freely in the Zone.
Well, in TOS, aside from BOT, the only other two times we see them in the Zone is when the Enterprise violates it, which would be understandable if such an intrusion were "an act of war".
MCCOY: Once inside, they can claim we did. A set-up. They want war, we furnish the provocation.
Of course, we don't know what the terms of this fictional treaty are other than the bit Spock recites, so the writers are free to fudge it any way they want, consistently or not. Also, in TNG on they refer to the Treaty of Algeron which may be a whole different kettle of fishheads.
