Mistakes in the Enterprise?

[ZapBrannigan]

No reason a ready room or Captain’s Office couldn’t have been just down the next deck from the bridge. Just because we never saw one used doesn’t mean it wasn’t there. Maybe Kirk opted not to use said office and had it repurposed for something else.

That works! Franz Joseph's Deck 2 science labs don't all have to be right there. Although I will say, FJ ensured that there are fourteen science labs aboard this ship. The finest equipment and computers in the galaxy. So anything you clear out of Deck 2 needs to be worked in someplace else.

I would be willing to say that the bowling alley was just a joke on Riley's part, and the space it occupies could be used for things that matter.

 

[Kor]

So... what would you change in or about the ship to make it a better design?

Seat belts.

... I would be willing to say that the bowling alley was just a joke on Riley's part, and that space can be used for things that matter.

I would say that on-board recreational facilities would matter very much on a long-term deep space mission.

Kor

 

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

I imagine there's an all-purpose space that fills whatever role it needs to when necessary, but in between needed moments it can become whatever pops into a crewman's head. This month, it's the bowling alley. Last month, it was an old-fashioned pizza restaurant with checkered tablecloths, while next month, it's going to be an indoor park complete with trampolines and ball pits.

 

[Shawnster]

Seat belts or safety restraints.

Non exploding consoles.

Secondary bridge access and ladder to lower decks

Restrooms

 

[Tenacity]

Maybe Kirk opted not to use said office and had it repurposed for something else.

My thought. Kirk's small office was where Yeoman Rand worked most of the time. Since Kirk didn't want to share the small space with her he work in his quarters.

When you're dealing with anti-matter weapons and things go boom, it's not going to matter whether your bridge is on the top or in the center.

Matt Decker survived by not being on the main bridge when it was rendered uninhabitable.

 

[TIN_MAN]

For what it's worth, MJ seems not to have been too fond of the horizontal turbo lifts either, judging from his surviving sketches, which show several main vertical shafts, but few if any horizontal ones.

 

[Mytran]

FJ really went to town on the horizontal tubes - but there's really no need to have them to the extent that tens of metres of saucer are inaccessible, the ship just isn't that large!
(Having said that, I do love the look of his tri-way Deck 6)

If anything, I would say that the horizontal tubes are not always the fastest way to reach a destination; witness the many times that characters walk to a different elevator stop to the one they arrived on just a few minutes earlier (or in different episodes). This would suggest that the horizontal tubes need to sometimes go up and down various decks to reach their destination and that walking is the quicker option

 

[uniderth]

The evidence is in the elevator car's motion indicator, which often portrays the car moving sideways. It's the rectangular window between McCoy and Scotty in this frame:
http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/3x13hd/elaanoftroyiushd0015.jpg

I haven't found a frame that shows the sideways movement, but it happened from time to time.

I'll have to watch some episodes again. I don't recall sideways lights.

No reason a ready room or Captain’s Office couldn’t have been just down the next deck from the bridge. Just because we never saw one used doesn’t mean it wasn’t there. Maybe Kirk opted not to use said office and had it repurposed for something else.

Please NO ready rooms! Ready rooms are SO TNG, just like "Away Team" or "Star Drive Sections".

 

[Redfern]

Meh, a briefing room by any other name...

 

[Kor]

Real-world aircraft carriers going back to WW2 have Ready Rooms, but they serve a totally different purpose from Picard's office on TNG.

Kor

 

[hifijohn]

https://io9.gizmodo.com/top-10-biggest-design-flaws-in-the-u-s-s-enterprise-1678274241

 

[GNDN18]

I'll have to watch some episodes again. I don't recall sideways lights.

“Amok Time”

Please NO ready rooms! Ready rooms are SO TNG, just like "Away Team" or "Star Drive Sections".

SCOTT: Don't ask for anymore warp nine speeds, Mister Spock. Our star drive is completely burned out. The only thing we have left is impulse power.

“The Paradise Syndrome”, right after Spock and the away team convene in the ready room.

ETA I hope the winky-face came through.

 

[Warped9]

View attachment 6262 “Amok Time”


“The Paradise Syndrome”, right after Spock and the away team convene in the ready room.

ETA I hope the winky-face came through.

A ready room was never mentioned in TOS.

 

[GNDN18]

A ready room was never mentioned in TOS.

Just so.

I guess the winky-face didn’t come through after all. Here you go:

 

[ZapBrannigan]

Just so.

I guess the winky-face didn’t come through after all. Here you go:

Posters who know TOS by heart often make jokes that go right over the heads of posters who don't. It's happened to me, when I take too much for granted that TOS is thoroughly known by the reader.

I'm sure there are innumerable jokes in the spinoff forums that I would not recognized at all, because I watched those 850(?) episodes once or twice and never memorized them.

 

[JonnyQuest037]

Please NO ready rooms! Ready rooms are SO TNG, just like "Away Team" or "Star Drive Sections".

 

[Maurice]

NAVY TERM —> TNG TERM
Captain's Day Cabin—> Ready Room
Captain's Gig—> Captain Yacht
Ready Room (pilots briefing/debriefing room)—> maybe Observation Lounge

 

[IMC Headquarters]

Installing nets in Engineering would prevent injuries from fall, and recover tools more rapidly.

Er...sickbay has no privacy. If the redshirt in the bed next to you snuffs it...oh well...

 

[Mytran]

Please NO ready rooms! Ready rooms are SO TNG, just like "Away Team" or "Star Drive Sections".

View attachment 6262 “The Paradise Syndrome”, right after Spock and the away team convene in the ready room.
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A similar term to "star drive" goes all the way back to the earliest TOS series bible:

WHAT ABOUT THE SHIP'S MAIN SAUCER-LIKE SECTION?

This is the portion of the shop in which we will be and which we will use most. It contains at the very top the ship's bridge and general operation facilities. This "saucer" is approximately twenty stories thick at its widest spot, containing also primary ship's departments, living accommodations, recreational facilities, laboratories, and is in fact a completely self-sustaining unit which can detach itself from the galaxy drive units and operate on atomic impulse power for short-range solar system exploration.

 

[Lance]

Put the bridge in the heart of the saucer section, where it isn't exposed. Put stellar cartography or the ship's astronomical facilities or what not on the very top. Where the bridge is now on most Federation designs, every bad-guy in the verse knows where to put the first shot once the shields go down.

I recall the designers of Deep Space Nine grappling with this very question, and several of the unused concepts played with the idea of placing Ops in a part of the station that wasn't exposed. But they ultimately stuck to tradition on the grounds that viewers had a kind of short hand about the bridge always being in an uppermost place.