Mirror, Mirror Thought

[telerites]

So why in the non-Mirror universe hadn't the Klingons or some other warlike, bent on conquest race taken over the Halkan homeworld to have access to the "incredible power" of the dilithium crystals? Given the Halkans have a history of eternal peace, they would have never gone to war. What are your thoughts?

Pertinent dialog below shows the Halkans will die but basically cannot do anything to prevent it which is what the Mirror federation planned to do.

THARN: We believe what you say, Captain Kirk, but our position has not altered. The Halkan Council cannot permit your Federation to mine dilithium crystals on our planet.
KIRK: We have shown the council historical proof that our missions are peaceful.
THARN: We accept that your Federation is benevolent at present, but the future is always in question. Our dilithium crystals represent awesome power. Wrongful use of that power, even to the extent of the taking of one life, would violate our history of total peace. To prevent that, we would die, Captain. As a race, if necessary.
KIRK: I admire your ethics and hope to prove ours. Kirk to Enterprise.

KIRK: When may we resume discussion?
THARN: The council will meditate further, but do not be hopeful of any change. Captain, you do have the might to force the crystals from us, of course.
KIRK: But we won't. Consider that. Enterprise. Transporter room, energise.

 

[DonIago]

The most logical explanation is that hostile races weren't aware of the Halkans or their planet was inaccessible.

 

[Nyotarules]

Perhaps Halka was in Federation region but not part of the Federation.

 

[telerites]

Perhaps Halka was in Federation region but not part of the Federation.

That's something I hadn't thought about.

 

[telerites]

The most logical explanation is that hostile races weren't aware of the Halkans or their planet was inaccessible.

I had that thought you of the not yet discovered but that seemed too easy of an answer. The inaccessible part like in the other post above is plausible.

 

[Wingsley]

Possibility #1: The Milky Way galaxy is very, very large. Halka could easily be on the opposite end of the Federation/Terran Empire, or otherwise tucked away where the Klingons would not find it.

2: We do not know the nature of the "Mirror Universe" Klingons, Romulans and other powers in the 23rd century in "Mirror, Mirror". Are they more or less aggressive than the Empire? We have no canon way of knowing.

3: Even if the Klingons are as warlike as the Empire, if not moreso, who is to say that they don't already rely on some other source for their dilithium?

 

[Marsden]

Perhaps Halka was in Federation region but not part of the Federation.

I think you are absolutely correct.

Not that there's a true "right" answer, but I think this is one of those planets in the Federation Zone of Exploration that the Federation has had prior contact but are still negotiating any formal agreements. The Prime Directive dictates that the Federation does not interfere with the Haulkan's culture, but they are also within Federation claimed space and any hostiles would presumably be turned away by Starfleet, unless they managed to slip in undetected.

 

[johnnybear]

The Klingons could be the good guys in that universe or may be a lot less advanced than they were in the prime universe! Strange though that The Halkans remained the same type of people in both universes?
JB

 

[Nyotarules]

The Klingons could be the good guys in that universe or may be a lot less advanced than they were in the prime universe! Strange though that The Halkans remained the same type of people in both universes?
JB

The mirror had chipped bits. Miles Edward O'Brian was a decent man in both universes.

 

[johnnybear]

What ol' Smiler?
JB

 

[Timo]

FWIW, "Mirror, Mirror" is a stardate-free episode taking place after "The Changeling" (where our heroes visit a star system already known to the ENT heroes, probably pretty close to Earth) and before "The Apple" (where our heroes are out in the sticks in every dramatic sense, even if the location, Gamma Trianguli, is only about a hundred lightyears from Earth in real world terms). There's an interval of one-third of a stardate year to play with there, so we can place Halka at either end and have it at the outer fringes of the UFP but still within its sphere of interference and outside the Klingon and Romulan ones.

However, Klingons get a mention in that same time slot, and one directly mirroring the resources quest issue of "Mirror" one, in "Friday's Child". Romulans drop by, too, in "The Deadly Years", right next door to "The Changeling" (which is only fitting, given the ENT connection). In stardate order, half a dozen episodes fall between the airdate bookends "The Changeling" and "The Apple", including three trips to the unknown, one shore leave on a friendly (if alien) port, one adventure at a distant outpost, and that one further case of meddling with primitives for their precious resources.

We might just as well declare Halka and Capella of "Friday's Child" fame next door neighbors, worth visiting but not really worth conquering. But both would warrant protection against Klingon conquest - it's just a point Kirk doesn't wish to raise with the Halkans, lest they think the Feds are the sort of warmongers they, well, are.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[johnnybear]

Depends on which side of The Klingon and Romulan neutral zones you sit I guess, Timo!
JB

 

[telerites]

I realize Klingons and Romulans received the most exposure in TOS but surely there may be other way of the warrior races that could be encountered. The reason I posted was like Timo mentioned above with "Friday's Child.".