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Miranda II

Looks great. I have to say this is one hell of a further step for the Miranda class period. Are you planning to make it have the ability to use Slipstream?
 
i think the less of an underside bulge would make it look a bit better.

sorry, that sounded a bit insulting. I really, really like this ship.
 
Say what you think man, it's no problem. When I started it I was actually going to make the whole body a fair bit thicker, but it's thinned out a bit since then. I'd struggle to make the underside any thinner, to be honest, I'd lose the deflector.
 
Great design, Axeman!
I'll stick in my tuppence worth and suggest that one of those deflector arrays could be converted into a shuttle bay.
 
Just the top deflector, with the bottom one being turned into a big ol' shuttlebay?

"Shuttlecraft 5, you are cleared for landing."

"OM NOM NOM NOM"
 
I like the idea of the top deflector alone, might investigate that. I might be something to do with me hating how the test deflector looks in these latest shots, click to embiggen...






Nacelles are redone with new detail, resized and moved slightly to the rear with slightly more cant outwards. The rollbar is now not so wide in the side view, the module on top has been made slightly smaller and longer and moved back a tad. I have cut in the darker areas on the upper body where the sensor style greebles and random details will go, in similar fashion to the areas on the original Miranda class. I gave it impulse engines, shuttlebays, a small cut-out at the rear edge of the saucer, another greeble area cut in at the very base of the lower body, and then stuck a quick deflector in the deflector cut out.

All that work and not a lot to see yet. Once I get around to actually detailing the thing then it will look like it has some scale, because right now it doesn't look like anything much. More when I get the time...
 
The more I see of this the more I like it. It's unmistakably a Starfleet ship yet it has its own identity. It isn't just rearranging familiar components. It has something to it like Vektor's pre TOS Vanguard design---it looks legit.

In all of Trek there are really few good Starfleet designs that look credible to me.
- the TOS Enterprise
- the Galileo shuttlecraft
- the TAS robot freighters
- the TAS freighter Huron
- the TMP refit Enterprise
- the TMP shuttlecraft
- the TMP workbee
- the TMP travel pod
- the Reliant from TWOK
- the Enterprise-D
- the Probert design TNG shuttlecraft
- the DS9 Defiant
- the DS9 runabouts
- the DS9 Chaffee shuttlecraft
- the Akira
 
I really do like the rough "workhorse of the fleet" look that the ship has from especially the side and aft profiles... this is looking very good indeed.
 
Wow, lots of Nebula hate in here, makes me sadface.

But! That's not the topic. I think you have a real beauty in the making here. If I had to suggest one thing, it would probably be to add some sort of angle or rounding to the rear edges of the saucer that make it flow a bit more into the struts other than just looking like a clean cut ending mid-way on the rollbar setup. (...please tell me that made sense.)
 
Wow, lots of Nebula hate in here, makes me sadface.

But! That's not the topic. I think you have a real beauty in the making here. If I had to suggest one thing, it would probably be to add some sort of angle or rounding to the rear edges of the saucer that make it flow a bit more into the struts other than just looking like a clean cut ending mid-way on the rollbar setup. (...please tell me that made sense.)
I too love the Nebula class, I was as surprised as you that some people think it a poor kitbash. Everyone has different tastes I suppose, makes for an intresting planet.

As for the rounding bit, no it doesn't make sense to me. If you mean the struts should come out more 'organically' from the saucer, I deliberately avoided that so that there was clear lineage back to the original Reliant model. If you look close at the saucer rear next to the struts, you'll see that I made it look like the saucer surface extends on to continue the lines of the curve, but the internal hull stops straight across. The idea was to make it look more like an aesthetic decision than a design neccessity.
 
The Nebula is my all-time favorite Trek ship, so I'm glad it has some support here, lol. But yea, keep going with this design... it has promise. :)
 
If you want to get treknical, the registry #'s for a lot of the Nebulas are earlier than the Galaxy, so they might have come first (or at least were planned first).
 
^

Aye... most likely the Nebula entered service shortly after Narendra III or the start of the Cardassian War.
 
Given the twenty years or so that it took to develop the Galaxy class (not canon, but from the TM), it seems plausible to me that the Nebula was developed both as a Miranda replacement and as a relatively low cost test bed for the new technology.
 
Wow, lots of Nebula hate in here, makes me sadface.

But! That's not the topic. I think you have a real beauty in the making here. If I had to suggest one thing, it would probably be to add some sort of angle or rounding to the rear edges of the saucer that make it flow a bit more into the struts other than just looking like a clean cut ending mid-way on the rollbar setup. (...please tell me that made sense.)
I too love the Nebula class, I was as surprised as you that some people think it a poor kitbash. Everyone has different tastes I suppose, makes for an intresting planet.

As for the rounding bit, no it doesn't make sense to me. If you mean the struts should come out more 'organically' from the saucer, I deliberately avoided that so that there was clear lineage back to the original Reliant model. If you look close at the saucer rear next to the struts, you'll see that I made it look like the saucer surface extends on to continue the lines of the curve, but the internal hull stops straight across. The idea was to make it look more like an aesthetic decision than a design neccessity.
I can see the versions with the oval pod or the small nacelles drawing some kitbash dislike/ire, but I came to love the triangular pod version (as did the creators, judging from its re-use).

And alright, I can get behind the idea of a deliberate throwback like that. Makes her shine from yet another angle.
 
I like the idea of the top deflector alone, might investigate that. I might be something to do with me hating how the test deflector looks in these latest shots, click to embiggen...






Nacelles are redone with new detail, resized and moved slightly to the rear with slightly more cant outwards. The rollbar is now not so wide in the side view, the module on top has been made slightly smaller and longer and moved back a tad. I have cut in the darker areas on the upper body where the sensor style greebles and random details will go, in similar fashion to the areas on the original Miranda class. I gave it impulse engines, shuttlebays, a small cut-out at the rear edge of the saucer, another greeble area cut in at the very base of the lower body, and then stuck a quick deflector in the deflector cut out.

All that work and not a lot to see yet. Once I get around to actually detailing the thing then it will look like it has some scale, because right now it doesn't look like anything much. More when I get the time...

I severly like how it looks so far :) :techman:
 
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