It was the one with the relevant dialogue. I don't much care either way for a YouTube video.
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It was the one with the relevant dialogue. I don't much care either way for a YouTube video.
I know.
I care as a person who cares about AV (Audio Visual) Tech.
Vertical Video is one of those trends in modern culture that I don't care for.
Same with SmartPhone makers having Hole Punches or cut-outs in their Screeens or Rounded Corners on their Displays.
I want my crisp Right Angles and no holes in my Displays, is that too much to ask for?
To return to the OP: within the limits of my knowledge, there are basically two kinds of "part time volunteers" in a military context.
The first is a Reserve system. This usually consists of a mix of retired ex-military who are keeping their hand in (often joining the Reserve is required when you retire) but have mostly moved on to civilian work, and people who join for the "adventure" or the paycheque or out of national pride, but don't want to commit to full-time military service (or can't qualify). Reserves are equipped by the state (meaning country, not an Australian or American political subunit) and primarily exist to provide a pool of spare bodies that could be called up for active service in an emergency, as well as to create a pool of skilled instructors and trainers (because Reserves tend to be high turnover) to make any need for massive recruitment much faster.
It's fairly possible that something like this could exist with Star Fleet. There's plenty of evidence that it's hard to get into Star Fleet. A local, planet- or system- wide organisation with sublight ships and other equipment provided by the Federation and a level of training adequette to deal with a narrower range of tasks could be very useful for both military defence and disaster/humanitarian response.
Whether or not the Federation is supporting such a body (and post-scarcity for the individual is much different from post-scarcity for an interstellar polity) feels very time-frame dependent. During TOS, with internal tensions high and conflict with the Klingons never far away, planetary reserves seem likely. Following the Dominion War, likewise. During First Season TNG when the Federation hasn't had a major conflict in ages? Far less likely that there's a Reserve system in place and if it is, it's probably undersupported by both government and the public.
The other kind of "part time volunteer" is the Militia. A Militia is a set of volunteers that provide their own equipment and are mostly responsible for their own training, though the state may provide some resources if the group maintains some certain minimum standards. The US National Guard is not a Militia, it's a Reserve, and off the top of my head I'm not aware of any G20 country that still uses militia, because they're unpredictable and their training and procedures are unreliable. Generally speaking, militia were used when soldiers weren't highly skilled professionals themselves, and when local groups felt a need to band together to protect themselves, governments found it easier to control this by giving them an official nod.
I don't think there would be any official militia in the Federation. There may be unofficial ones - one could argue the Maquis are an unofficial militia - but I can't see a group of civilians, being mostly left to their own devices, getting any sort of recognition from the Federation.
The first is a Reserve system. This usually consists of a mix of retired ex-military who are keeping their hand in (often joining the Reserve is required when you retire) but have mostly moved on to civilian work, and people who join for the "adventure" or the paycheque or out of national pride, but don't want to commit to full-time military service (or can't qualify). Reserves are equipped by the state (meaning country, not an Australian or American political subunit) and primarily exist to provide a pool of spare bodies that could be called up for active service in an emergency, as well as to create a pool of skilled instructors and trainers (because Reserves tend to be high turnover) to make any need for massive recruitment much faster.
It's fairly possible that something like this could exist with Star Fleet. There's plenty of evidence that it's hard to get into Star Fleet. A local, planet- or system- wide organisation with sublight ships and other equipment provided by the Federation and a level of training adequette to deal with a narrower range of tasks could be very useful for both military defence and disaster/humanitarian response.
Whether or not the Federation is supporting such a body (and post-scarcity for the individual is much different from post-scarcity for an interstellar polity) feels very time-frame dependent. During TOS, with internal tensions high and conflict with the Klingons never far away, planetary reserves seem likely. Following the Dominion War, likewise. During First Season TNG when the Federation hasn't had a major conflict in ages? Far less likely that there's a Reserve system in place and if it is, it's probably undersupported by both government and the public.
The other kind of "part time volunteer" is the Militia. A Militia is a set of volunteers that provide their own equipment and are mostly responsible for their own training, though the state may provide some resources if the group maintains some certain minimum standards. The US National Guard is not a Militia, it's a Reserve, and off the top of my head I'm not aware of any G20 country that still uses militia, because they're unpredictable and their training and procedures are unreliable. Generally speaking, militia were used when soldiers weren't highly skilled professionals themselves, and when local groups felt a need to band together to protect themselves, governments found it easier to control this by giving them an official nod.
I don't think there would be any official militia in the Federation. There may be unofficial ones - one could argue the Maquis are an unofficial militia - but I can't see a group of civilians, being mostly left to their own devices, getting any sort of recognition from the Federation.
You're asking the wrong person. Maybe you should write a strongly worded letter to the various cell phone manufacturers.
They don't care about regular consumer opinions, even informed ones.
They all blindly copy Apple.
If Apple has Rounded Corners, they'll have it.
If Apple punches a hole in the screen, they'll do it.
They literally all blindly follow Apple Aesthetics & Design.
Very few companies are brave enough to come up with their own unique design aesthetic that is "Anti-Apple".
Everybody has some elements of Apple in them.
Probably because it works at selling cell phones. We've reached a point where we have a workable form factor that most people are accustomed to.
If the industry is still copying Apple then that's a problem for the whole industry. Apple products have pretty much sucked ass since Steve Jobs died. That includes the poser Tim Cook.
Yes, but the design details can change dramatically, instead of all looking like cheap Apple clones.
I'll give credit to a smaller Phone Company like "Nothing".
Their designs are truly original with very few copied things.
I know, but that still hasn't stopped the blind copying of their industrial design.
Even the bad decisions that sometimes Apple makes.
Looks pretty comparable to every other cell phone out there, complete with a hole on the screen for the forward facing camera.
Have you actually bought one of these?
I haven't bought their SmartPhones yet, definitely considered it.
I own 2x of their Blue-Tooth Wireless HeadPhones.
I own the:
- "Nothing Ear Stick"
- "Nothing Ear Open"
I'll just stick with my last-gen iPhone. It does the job I need it to do.
I'm going to try out the lastest Sony Xperia 10 Series phone next time I want to change.
*Double checks which forum I'm in*
Ah, this is GTD. I'll let you get back to your cell phone discussion then.
Ah, this is GTD. I'll let you get back to your cell phone discussion then.
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No.
99.999% true.
Unless you talk to TMP Dr. McCoy who complained that Kirk had Starfleet invoke their "little-known and seldom-used Reserve Activation Clause" to get him back to the Enterprise for the V'Ger incident. So their can always potentially be a "draft" in case of emergency situations.
Unless you talk to TMP Dr. McCoy who complained that Kirk had Starfleet invoke their "little-known and seldom-used Reserve Activation Clause" to get him back to the Enterprise for the V'Ger incident. So their can always potentially be a "draft" in case of emergency situations.
Oh, that's a good reminder.
So this means it's not just me speculating that Starfleet "might" have a reserve system in place. This is a clear statement that, at least at the start of the Movie Era and almost certainly back into TOS, when one retired from active duty one was placed on Reserve status and could, under appropriate conditions, be compelled to return to service. No so much a "draft," though, which involves compelling random civilians to become soldiers. This clearly only applies to people who have previously been part of Starfleet.
It's also used so rarely that Kirk has forgotten it exists. Of course that's just the compulsory portion. This scene doesn't really tell us if there's a big, visible "Starfleet Reserves" system with people working day jobs and doing Fleet training evenings and week-ends, or just this obscure rule that gets used once in ten thousand times.
StarFleet has a "Reserve Activation Clause" that has been used before throughout the various shows history.
Of course, that means "Full Retirement" must be some significant amount of time after you retire from duty.
That implicitly means that StarFleet reserve must be pretty large since that implies that those who retire might automatically be placed in StarFleet Reserve status.
Why do you suppose this? I don't follow.
I understand that is the reality on Earth today. The non-sanctioned civilian militias and paramilitary groups seem more prevalent in rural areas as opposed to urban areas. That seems to be due to the nature of these groups, though. They value the anonymity and space that rural settings provide. The threat they feel the need to train for is terrestrial.
With regards US sanctioned and backed national guards (the modern equivalent of state militias) they are located it seems equally in both urban and rural settings. Like the non-sanctioned militias, these too are training to defend against aggressors based on Earth.
In contrast, a 23rd or 24th century militia would train to defend against aggressors from other planets. Wouldn't urban and rural locations be equally at risk to alien attack and invasion?
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