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Mike Farrell: "The Gang that couldn't shoot straight strikes again"

Dorian Thompson

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SAG battle

Mike Farrell is really bad mouthing SAG these days. He chronicles every misstep they've made in calling for a strike. When a guy this pro-union is willing to mock the union, procedure must be a clusterfuck from hell. No wonder they've delayed the authorization vote for a couple of weeks. Hopefully they'll cancel it indefinitely.

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Their first step was a high-handed approach to the agents, insisting they could simply "promulgate" SAG's authority over all actor's contracts and take legal action if the ATA, the agents' organization, didn't toe the line. You may have heard the laughter. Needless to say, our leaders didn't broadcast the humiliating rejection that ensued, but, as you may have noticed, we still have no Franchise Agreement with the major agencies.
Raising DVD residuals (labeled a 'non-starter' by the AMPTP) had to wait until the '08 contract negotiations, so the next order of business was to Swift-Boat AFTRA and get it out of the way. Our leaders started by bad-mouthing the smaller union, criticizing its contracts and organizing methods. Then they tried to intimidate AFTRA into becoming the neutered bystander in the '08 negotiations with the AMPTP, claiming that the 50/50 deal made between SAG and AFTRA under the Phase One agreement almost 30 years ago was suddenly unfair. Using every trick they could think of, including attempting to muscle the NY and Regional Branches of SAG into line, they belittled and trash-talked AFTRA, pressing it to knuckle under. To their great surprise, AFTRA's leaders called their bluff, refusing to accept less than the equal partnership the long-honored agreement promised. Stunned by this surprisingly firm stand, SAG's leaders backed down, claiming they hadn't really meant it after all.
Subsequent disparagement and double-dealing by SAG leaders, however, resulted in AFTRA's losing patience with the process. Deciding their negotiating partners were not trustworthy, AFTRA broke away and moved to meet with the AMPTP on its own
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This is Mike Farrell talking. It gets worse. He's the former vice president of SAG and he's got nothing good to say about the current negotiators. Melissa Gilbert, the former president, is with Farrell on this. A lot of actors are signing the no-strike petitions. It's like watching a car wreck.
 
Re: Mike Farrell: "The Gang that couldn't shoot straight strikes again

I'm very pro-union as well, but this is the WORST time for ANOTHER TV/movie strike. A lot of people (including myself) would be happy to just have a JOB right now.
 
Re: Mike Farrell: "The Gang that couldn't shoot straight strikes again

Elementary labour strategy: strike when times are good, not when times are bad.
 
Re: Mike Farrell: "The Gang that couldn't shoot straight strikes again

Yeah, I was shocked by the names on the list Farrell signed and that was published in an open letter to SAG leadership imploring them not to strike--

Alan Alda, Melissa Gilbert, Danny Devito, Rhea Perlman, Morgan Freeman, all the Baldwin brothers, David Boreanaz, Glenn Close, George Clooney, Billy Crystal, Jason Alexander, John Goodman, Sally Field, Kelsey Grammar, Terri Garr, Diane Keaton, Carol Kane, Ewan McGregor, Kevin Spacey, Mary Steenburgen, Matt Damon, René Auberjonois, Armin Shimerman, Ted Danson, Tom Hanks, Ed Norton, Adrian Pasdar, Eva Longoria Parker, Felicity Huffman, Toby Macguire, Marilu Henner, Helen Mirren, Charlize Theron, Olympia Dukakis, Cameron Diaz, Patty Duke, Michael C. Hall, Christian Slater, Donald Sutherland, Lucy Liu, Jack Coleman, Tony Shalhoub.....the list goes on and on. All against a strike.

The actors aren't itching to strike. Not by a long shot.
 
Re: Mike Farrell: "The Gang that couldn't shoot straight strikes again

I want to know what the SAG leadership would do if the strike got a NO vote?
How much control do they have?
I already know how dumb they are.
 
Re: Mike Farrell: "The Gang that couldn't shoot straight strikes again

They'd implode if they got a NO vote. That's why they're trying to save face and delay the vote. Alienating AFTRA was a spectacularly dumb move; I agree with Farrell on that point.
 
Re: Mike Farrell: "The Gang that couldn't shoot straight strikes again

Could someone (preferably in plain english) tell me what the issues are this time around?
 
Re: Mike Farrell: "The Gang that couldn't shoot straight strikes again

more or less the same as with the WGA strike: wanting more (or some) money from DVD sales and online work the same as with the DGA, but the DGA managed to negotiate a deal without it ever coming to a strike, cuz their deal was done during the WGA strike and before the end of the previous deal in the summer.
 
Re: Mike Farrell: "The Gang that couldn't shoot straight strikes again

more or less the same as with the WGA strike: wanting more (or some) money from DVD sales and online work the same as with the DGA, but the DGA managed to negotiate a deal without it ever coming to a strike, cuz their deal was done during the WGA strike and before the end of the previous deal in the summer.

Ok, is this a "lawyer speak" situation where the studios don't want to count dvds and online as a "perofrmance" or "airing" in terms of residuals?
 
Re: Mike Farrell: "The Gang that couldn't shoot straight strikes again

i dunno, tbh, i just know that the old contracts didn't cover DVDs and online stuff because they dated back to the 80s where watching TV shows on the net was pure SF. and now the actors/writers/directors think it's a potential source of income and they're getting stiffed on the amount they were getting and want more.
 
Re: Mike Farrell: "The Gang that couldn't shoot straight strikes again

i dunno, tbh, i just know that the old contracts didn't cover DVDs and online stuff because they dated back to the 80s where watching TV shows on the net was pure SF. and now the actors/writers/directors think it's a potential source of income and they're getting stiffed on the amount they were getting and want more.

Well, if the terms are "per airing" or "per performance" or some such, it shouldn't MATTER whether or not it's internet of DVD or VHS or syndication.

That's why I hate "lawyer speak". Five pages of words that go out of their way to NOT say anything concrete.
 
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