MGagen’s New TOS-E Project

Discussion in 'Fan Art' started by MGagen, Feb 27, 2023.

  1. MGagen

    MGagen Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Those who’ve been around here for a while may remember previous threads detailing my various 3D projects. Twice before I have modeled the TOS Enterprise; the first attempt being abandoned incomplete, and the second completed after about a decade of obsessive research. Being a stickler for detail slows down the process a bit.

    Here’s a later render of my “Block 2” Enterprise, with a space station based on Matt Jefferies’ initial concept sketch for DSS K-7.

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    In recent years I’ve gotten the itch to tackle a new model of the old girl, taking advantage of all the new research and references that have come to light since my last effort. To make it worth my while, I’ve set myself a requirement that this time I would model the ship in a CAD system that I can use to generate an accurate set of publicly available blueprints. Yes, I will be throwing my hat into that ring, alongside the venerable works of Phil Broad, Charles Casmiro, and several others. The modeling was done in MoI 3D, an excellent NURBS based solid modeler designed with artists, rather than engineers, in mind. Here is a perspective render of the completed model from that program.

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    A further difference between my previous attempt and this one is that I have physically modeled the windows into this “Block 3” version. Before, the windows were applied as texture maps onto an un-perforated hull. The advantage to this new model is that I will be able to suggest the interior spaces visible behind the lit windows; something that would have been quite tricky with my previous method.

    Finally, since the 3D software I have worked in, professionally and as a hobbyist, for the last 20 years has seemingly “died on the vine,” I am using this project as an inducement to learn the excellent open source program, Blender. I will be importing the MoI 3D model into Blender where it will be textured, lit and rendered.

    All this brings me to the main point of this first post: Having taken inspiration from Warped9’s excellent thread about Unseen TOS, I decided that instead of merely suggesting the various interiors that will be visible through the windows, I would model in complete detail at least one of the larger compartments. I think it would be nice to animate a shot where the ship approaches and we go right in through a window. I have chosen the 5 windows on the forward starboard rim of the primary hull to place my idea of a crew lounge. Something that might look a little familiar; but we’ve never been in this exact room before.

    In planning what would be visible behind the various windows, I had to figure out where the decks themselves would fall. I referenced my observation from many years ago that the window levels might not always be what you would expect. Due to the severe angles of some of the windows, they might be a lot higher or lower in reference to the deck levels than most people have considered.

    An image I made to illustrate the issue, back in 2003:

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    This is a challenge; but also a data point in figuring out what’s behind the surface of our favorite starship. In the case of the crew lounge, it also gave me a mystery to solve. Many folks have noticed that the window on the lower level is not a full deck below the ones above. This led me to posit a gangway with a landing half way down to the lower deck. It also works out that the sloping curve of the underside edge would make a window any lower pretty much unworkable. Another clue MJ knew what he was about.

    Here are some preliminary renders of my crew lounge. You will note it is quite similar to ones we’ve seen in some episodes, but they were obviously not adjacent to exterior windows. This lounge precisely fits into a 947’ scaled ship, and I have altered the angles of the outer wall and support structure from the set versions to fit the actual hull of the ship.

    Here are three views from the main entrance.

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    Here is a view from the railing in front of the far window, back toward the main entrance.

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    Here is a view from the food slots to the far end of the lounge.

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    A view down the gangway toward the landing and the lower window.

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    A view up the gangway toward the upper level.

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    All of these are WIP renders. There will be refinements to the textures and likely a few more details.

    The lower deck is merely a ring corridor. There isn't much width for full height rooms on either side of the concentric corridor. The gray area next to the lowest stair shows the inner surface of the hull as it curves up. I have imagined the ring corridor mostly accesses raw material and equipment storage. This lounge happens to be one of the access points. The small room at the bottom has a double door on each side opening into the ring corridor.

    More updates in a few days.

    M.
     
  2. publiusr

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    I have often wondered what the neck/dorsal could be used for…maybe a series of decontamination rooms coming from a flooded secondary hull? Pressure differential step-up/step-down deals…
     
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  3. blssdwlf

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  4. Laura Cynthia Chambers

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    Nice interiors!
     
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  5. Professor Moriarty

    Professor Moriarty Rice Admiral Premium Member

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    Welcome back! I found myself in the same boat (DCC dying), except mine was LightWave. I also had to choose a new DCC and considered switching to Blender, but instead I made what I now realize was the mistake of picking Cinema 4D. So I will be watching this with avid interest, to see how your “Blenderization” proceeds… and so far it looks like it’s proceeding very splendidly! Eagerly looking forward to the next installment of your Blender adventure!
     
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  6. blssdwlf

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    Never too late to learn another package ;) MGagen's blenderization looks pretty darn good!
     
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  7. Robert Simmons

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    Looks great!
     
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  8. aridas sofia

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    I love it. That looks like a set Matt Jefferies would design.
     
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  9. fireproof78

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    Excellent work. Looks quite cozy and comfortable.
     
  10. Laura Cynthia Chambers

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    Can you do the Enterprise's wedding chapel room from "Balance of Terror"?
     
  11. danellis

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    Loving the renders.

    I definitely get the idea behind the railings, in principle, it makes perfect sense. Are they necessary in this instance, though? They're at roughly the same height as the bottom of the windows, here and the windows are roughly a foot away...

    dJE
     
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  12. Imaus

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    Amazing, I could almost feel myself in that space immediately
     
  13. MGagen

    MGagen Fleet Captain Fleet Captain

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    Thanks for all the kind comments. I must make this brief as I’m having an Internet outage at home. I am dictating this on my phone.
    The handrails serve two purposes. Due to the slope of the outer bulkhead, your toes might bump against the bottom of the wall as you approach the windows to look out, but before you would be as close as you might want to be. This could cause someone to pitch forward if they weren’t paying attention. The handrail will stop you before you step too far forward and trip yourself. It also gives you something at a comfortable height to lean forward on if you wish the gaze out at the planet turning gracefully below, or the stars whizzing past.
    M.
     
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  14. Henoch

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    Excellent TOS lounge! This lounge should have been used for the reception in Journey to Babel.

    (The lower level could have the mythical bathrooms, too.)
     
  15. Laura Cynthia Chambers

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    Also wonder what the bathroom interiors would look like. Many real bathrooms these days already look futuristic.
     
  16. Professor Moriarty

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    Space OSHA has approved this post.
     
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  17. Cyfa

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    Ingenious interpretation of the window placements :bolian: I'm sure this type of thinking can be applied to many other starships with what appears at first glance to be odd/bizarre/unworkable window lines.
     
  18. Tallguy

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    Hot digity! Well, I'm currently building the Enterprise again, but if you're going to release plans then I'm sure I'll be building it again again.

    Good luck with Blender. It's come a long way and the resources to learn have never been better.
     
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  19. Santaman

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    Really nice work, the colours are also really well chosen. :techman:
     
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  20. Warped9

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    Awesome! Can’t wait to see more!