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Diamond Select has said on at least one occasion that they aren't allowed to do the JJ Movie ships as CBS won't give them the rights. This may have changed, but still.
That makes no sense because DST has been making the Prime timeline Movie ships, which Paramount owns. Why would this be any different just because its the Kelvin timeline?
 
That makes no sense because DST has been making the Prime timeline Movie ships, which Paramount owns. Why would this be any different just because its the Kelvin timeline?
Could be that it's because the KT-stuff was created after the CBS/Paramout split. For everything that occurred before that split it appears that CBS has complete control over the merchandising (I assume they pay Paramount a percentage of the royalties for movie stuff). However, for the new stuff, while it looks like CBS Consumer Products is the principal party handling the transactions, Paramout must have some say into how things are handled (based on how the original KT novel series was killed so as to not offer up competing plots to possible new movies).

It seems like for '09/ID the parties wanted all of the rights for action figures and electronic toys to reside with a single licensor, and one that was making things a bit more for kids (I believe that all of the DST stuff is marked "ages 14 and up", which is done so that the toy doesn't have to meet as strict a regulatory requirement), so we got the selection of Playmates and Hasbro. Of course in hindsight, it's obvious that this strategy was a mistake - and that for Beyond the toy strategy was "let's not bother".
 
That makes no sense because DST has been making the Prime timeline Movie ships, which Paramount owns. Why would this be any different just because its the Kelvin timeline?
All Paramount owns is the right to make and distribute Star Trek movies. The merchandising end--both original and Kelvin timelines--that's through CBS. Given that Mattel and Funko can make toys from either timeline, the situation with DST would make sense if DST's license simply didn't cover any Trek production past 2005 or 2006, and they haven't been able to renegotiate or obtain a new one.
 
Of course, the other problem with DST is they only do one new ship every 5 or 6 years...or at least, it feels that way.

What I'm waiting for is Quantum Mechanix to finally get off their butts and release the smaller, more affordable Star Trek ships that were promised to the fans when they started showing off their hugenormous Artisan replica of the KT Enterprise back when the movie was first coming out. They've released a Futurama Planet Express ship from that line, shown off prototypes of the NCC-1701, both TOS and TMP versions, and they're putting out the Franklin with the Amazon Blu-Rays. Time to give us the KT Enterprise. Assuming they can make them without droopy nacelles for once.
 
All Paramount owns is the right to make and distribute Star Trek movies. The merchandising end--both original and Kelvin timelines--that's through CBS. Given that Mattel and Funko can make toys from either timeline, the situation with DST would make sense if DST's license simply didn't cover any Trek production past 2005 or 2006, and they haven't been able to renegotiate or obtain a new one.
I thought Paramount owned merchandise fron the Trek movies too? How did CBS acquire the merchandising rights to the movie franchise if they split? Got a source for your information?
 
I thought Paramount owned merchandise fron the Trek movies too? How did CBS acquire the merchandising rights to the movie franchise if they split? Got a source for your information?
I think it's because CBS owns all of the rights to the characters, setting, etc., while Paramount holds the copyrights to the movies and the rights to make additional films.
 
(based on how the original KT novel series was killed so as to not offer up competing plots to possible new movies)

That's the first time I've heard a rationale for the cancellation of the novels. Your rationale makes sense.
 
I thought Paramount owned merchandise fron the Trek movies too? How did CBS acquire the merchandising rights to the movie franchise if they split?
CBS acquired what was formerly Paramount Television in the split from Viacom. That gave them the licensing rights to a ton of TV shows, including every Trek series. Under the new arrangement, Paramount Pictures (the remaining movie division) continues to make Trek movies under license from CBS.
Got a source for your information?
Pretty much everything made over the last ten years, but here's the list of properties that can be licensed from CBS Consumer Products itself (look at the "Star Trek" tab):
http://www.cbsconsumerproducts.com/properties.html

Paramount these days is a renter of Trek's IP, not an owner.
 
CBS acquired what was formerly Paramount Television in the split from Viacom. That gave them the licensing rights to a ton of TV shows, including every Trek series. Under the new arrangement, Paramount Pictures (the remaining movie division) continues to make Trek movies under license from CBS.

Pretty much everything made over the last ten years, but here's the list of properties that can be licensed from CBS Consumer Products itself (look at the "Star Trek" tab):
http://www.cbsconsumerproducts.com/properties.html

Paramount these days is a renter of Trek's IP, not an owner.

And if you use the Wayback machine on this Page, Star Trek (2009) has been there since the earliest archive in 2012, so it has always been like this.

Where did this misconception of CBS not owning the JJ films come from?

Because I thought they were separate as well, until content showed up in Star Trek Online.
 
Since Star Trek online came up, wouldn't a new game be nice? Not a crappy movie tie in like with ID but an original game.

I don't play MMO's (strictly single player, except for Rocket League) so I never gave Online a try but it's years old now, I imagine a new single/muktiplayer game would take away from its audience
 
Well it is a MMO, but you're not required to play with other players, vast majority of the content is Single Player. Missions are instanced, so it isn't like an open world MMO like World of Warcraft or SWTOR where you bump into players on other quests.

Though it is an MMO so you do need a constant online connection.
 
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And if you use the Wayback machine on this Page, Star Trek (2009) has been there since the earliest archive in 2012, so it has always been like this.

Where did this misconception of CBS not owning the JJ films come from?
Probably by people not reading the fine print. ;)
 
CBS acquired what was formerly Paramount Television in the split from Viacom. That gave them the licensing rights to a ton of TV shows, including every Trek series. Under the new arrangement, Paramount Pictures (the remaining movie division) continues to make Trek movies under license from CBS.

Pretty much everything made over the last ten years, but here's the list of properties that can be licensed from CBS Consumer Products itself (look at the "Star Trek" tab):
http://www.cbsconsumerproducts.com/properties.html

Paramount these days is a renter of Trek's IP, not an owner.

Interesting.

Theoretically, could CBS license another studio to produce Star Trek movies at some point in the future?
 
Well it is a MMO, but you're not required to play with other players, vast majority of the content is Single Player. Missions are instanced, so it isn't like an open world MMO like World of Warcraft or SWTOR where you bump into players on other quests.

Though it is an MMO so you do need a constant online connection.

Yeah, I'm on DSL in the country, my connection is too borderline for gaming. Sometimes it's fast enough, sometimes it's not. That's why I can play rocket league, the games are short enough that if my ping gets too high I can try and fight through the last minute of the game and then quit.

Still, I don't think it would hurt them to do a Trek single player game. Look at the hype over No Man's Sky. Even if the final product is "meh" it shows a big market for an excellent space exploration game.
 
Interesting.

Theoretically, could CBS license another studio to produce Star Trek movies at some point in the future?
Theoretically, yes, but the odds of that happening are slim, IMO. Either another studio would be crazy enough to outbid Paramount or Paramount would have to throw in the towel and walk away from producing any more Star Trek movies. Heck, it might require both scenarios for another studio to start making Trek movies.
 
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