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Meditation.

KJbushway

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I was bored so I decided to look up ways to control anger and ways to control my thoughts. One thing that kept showing up was meditation. I know there is many forms, I will try the simple breathing and slowing down my thoughts. I was wondering does anybody here on trekbbs pratice meditation? Does anybody have any reviews on the pratice itself.
 
I was bored so I decided to look up ways to control anger and ways to control my thoughts. One thing that kept showing up was meditation. I know there is many forms, I will try the simple breathing and slowing down my thoughts. I was wondering does anybody here on trekbbs pratice meditation? Does anybody have any reviews on the pratice itself.

I practice meditation, and it does work. I recommend that when you meditate, you don't slow down your thoughts, you empty your mind of thoughts. You let them come to you, unbidden at first, and then dismiss them. Over time, there will be fewer as you slide deeper into a meditative state, and once your mind is clear, you can enjoy some level of peace and tranquility.

A less busy mind makes it possible to think more clearly, to focus on important issues without being overcome by them, and to accurately gauge what goes on in your surrounding environment, making you more capable of intuitive thought.
 
I've been trying to master meditation and self-hypnosis for almost 20 years now. I've made some headway, but haven't mastered either one yet. I either fall asleep or my mind kicks back in when I catch myself in a trance state. Letting go is hard to do.
 
All I can think about is Dhalsim saying "I will meditate and then destroy you!"

I'm pretty sure that's not how meditation works, though.
 
I've been trying to master meditation and self-hypnosis for almost 20 years now. I've made some headway, but haven't mastered either one yet. I either fall asleep or my mind kicks back in when I catch myself in a trance state. Letting go is hard to do.

I have tried it before with out really knowing what I was doing. I just simply tried to close my mind, but it didn't work. Then again I wasn't breathing or relaxing my mind. I just have so many thoughts coming to me, my imagination is such that its always going. I just have to try it this time since I know what to do. I don' expect results right away but I will try and stay optimisitic.
 
I was bored so I decided to look up ways to control anger and ways to control my thoughts. One thing that kept showing up was meditation. I know there is many forms, I will try the simple breathing and slowing down my thoughts. I was wondering does anybody here on trekbbs pratice meditation? Does anybody have any reviews on the pratice itself.

I practice meditation, and it does work. I recommend that when you meditate, you don't slow down your thoughts, you empty your mind of thoughts. You let them come to you, unbidden at first, and then dismiss them. Over time, there will be fewer as you slide deeper into a meditative state, and once your mind is clear, you can enjoy some level of peace and tranquility.

A less busy mind makes it possible to think more clearly, to focus on important issues without being overcome by them, and to accurately gauge what goes on in your surrounding environment, making you more capable of intuitive thought.
Yep, absolutely.

I used to meditate, but the constant tinnitus I have gets in the way somewhat, these days.

(I mentioned this the last time there was a thread on meditation, so I apologize for the repetition).

:D
 
I got the idea from this.

http://archive.tm.org/book/chap_2.html

I started on chpt 1.

Well, that's a gimmick to sell books/CDs. If you're looking for a gimmick, you've found one. If you want to actually bring calm and focus to your life, that book will probably not work for you.


Since your expirenced, do you have a website that gives actually information? I have tried to look up techniques but nothing shows up explaining how to do something.
 
I was bored so I decided to look up ways to control anger and ways to control my thoughts. One thing that kept showing up was meditation. I know there is many forms, I will try the simple breathing and slowing down my thoughts. I was wondering does anybody here on trekbbs pratice meditation? Does anybody have any reviews on the pratice itself.

I practice meditation, and it does work. I recommend that when you meditate, you don't slow down your thoughts, you empty your mind of thoughts. You let them come to you, unbidden at first, and then dismiss them. Over time, there will be fewer as you slide deeper into a meditative state, and once your mind is clear, you can enjoy some level of peace and tranquility.

A less busy mind makes it possible to think more clearly, to focus on important issues without being overcome by them, and to accurately gauge what goes on in your surrounding environment, making you more capable of intuitive thought.
Yep, absolutely.

I used to meditate, but the constant tinnitus I have gets in the way somewhat, these days.

(I mentioned this the last time there was a thread on meditation, so I apologize for the repetition).

:D

I understand why that would be a bit frustrating. I have slight tinnitus, and it can get in the way at first. However, I have a music background, and music can help me meditate, so I take the tinnitus and the key in which it exists (high C), and I incorporate it into my music meditation. I play music (in my head) that matches it and then I change up the harmonies to make it blend.

After a certain amount of time, my music stops, and all that is left is the remnant of a high C note, bringing clarity, like that of a single voice, and as that single voice fades, I'm left with barren thoughts.

It definitely takes practice.

I got the idea from this.

http://archive.tm.org/book/chap_2.html

I started on chpt 1.

Well, that's a gimmick to sell books/CDs. If you're looking for a gimmick, you've found one. If you want to actually bring calm and focus to your life, that book will probably not work for you.


Since your expirenced, do you have a website that gives actually information? I have tried to look up techniques but nothing shows up explaining how to do something.

Honestly, all a website's going to do is show you how other people find ways to meditate. They may not work for you. The best meditation comes from personal exploration, because then your mind can shape it to meet your needs. That said, I'll give you the article to meditations I have found useful and beneficial [link]:

Basic Meditation

The most basic form of meditation involves attending to one's breath.
Begin by sitting in a simple chair, keeping your back erect if you can. The more traditional postures are the lotus position, sitting on a pillow with each foot upon the opposite thigh, and variations such as the half lotus (one foot on the opposite thigh, the other out in front of the opposite knee). This is difficult for many people. Some people kneel, sitting back on their legs or on a pillow between their legs. Many use a meditation bench: kneel, then place a little bench beneath your behind. But meditation is also done while standing, slowly walking, lying on the floor, or even in a recliner!
Traditionally, the hands are placed loosely, palms up, one on top of the other, and with the thumbs lightly touching. This is called the cosmic mudra, one of a large number of symbolic hand positions. You may prefer to lay them flat on your thighs, or any other way that you find comfortable.
Your head should be upright, but not rigid. The eyes may be closed, or focussed on a spot on the ground a couple of feet ahead of you, or looking down at your hands. If you find yourself getting sleepy, keep your eyes open!

Beginning meditators are often asked to count their breath, on the exhale, up to ten. Then you begin back at one. If you loose track, simply go back to one. Your breath should be slow and regular, but not forced or artificially controlled. Just breathe naturally and count.
A few weeks later, you may forego the counting and try to simply follow your breath. Concentrate on it entering you and exiting you. Best is to be aware as fully as possible of the entire process of breathing, but most people focus on one aspect or another: the sensation of coolness followed by warmth at the nostrils, or the rise and fall of the diaphragm. Many meditators suggest imagining the air entering and exiting a small hole an inch or two below your navel. Keeping your mind lower on the body tends to lead to deeper meditation. If you are sleepy, then focus higher, such as at the nostrils.
You will inevitably find yourself distracted by sounds around you and thoughts within. The way to handle them is to acknowledge them, but do not attach yourself to them. Do not get involved with them. Just let them be, let them go, and focus again on the breath. At first, it might be wise to scratch when you itch and wiggle when you get uncomfortable. Later, you will find that the same scant attention that you use for thoughts and sounds will work with physical feelings as well.

A more advanced form of meditation is shikantaza, or emptiness meditation. Here, you don't follow anything at all. There is no concentration -- only quiet mindfulness. You hold your mind as if you were ready for things to happen, but don't allow your mind to become attached to anything. Things -- sounds, smells, aches, thoughts, images -- just drift in and out, like clouds in a light breeze. This is my own favorite.
Many people have a hard time with their thoughts. We are so used to our hyperactive minds, that we barely notice the fact that they are usually roaring with activity. So, when we first sit and meditate, we are caught off guard by all the activity. So some people find it helpful to use a little imagination to help them meditate. For example, instead of counting or following your breath, you might prefer to imagine a peaceful scene, perhaps floating in a warm lagoon, until the noise of your mind quiets down.

Meditate for fifteen minutes a day, perhaps early in the morning before the rest of the house wakes up, or late at night when everything has quieted down. If that's too much, do it once a week if you like. If you want, do more. Don't get frustrated. And don't get competitive, either. Don't start looking forward to some grand explosion of enlightenment. If you have great thoughts, fine. Write them down, if you like. Then go back to breathing. If you feel powerful emotions, wonderful. Then go back to breathing. The breathing is enlightenment.

I'm a fan of meditating while walking slowly. There is a sense of interaction with one's environment that heightens the senses and brings contemplation.
 
I practice meditation, and it does work. I recommend that when you meditate, you don't slow down your thoughts, you empty your mind of thoughts. You let them come to you, unbidden at first, and then dismiss them. Over time, there will be fewer as you slide deeper into a meditative state, and once your mind is clear, you can enjoy some level of peace and tranquility.

A less busy mind makes it possible to think more clearly, to focus on important issues without being overcome by them, and to accurately gauge what goes on in your surrounding environment, making you more capable of intuitive thought.
Yep, absolutely.

I used to meditate, but the constant tinnitus I have gets in the way somewhat, these days.

(I mentioned this the last time there was a thread on meditation, so I apologize for the repetition).

:D

I understand why that would be a bit frustrating. I have slight tinnitus, and it can get in the way at first. However, I have a music background, and music can help me meditate, so I take the tinnitus and the key in which it exists (high C), and I incorporate it into my music meditation. I play music (in my head) that matches it and then I change up the harmonies to make it blend.

After a certain amount of time, my music stops, and all that is left is the remnant of a high C note, bringing clarity, like that of a single voice, and as that single voice fades, I'm left with barren thoughts.

It definitely takes practice.
Yeah, I tried a similar method for a while - I'm a musical type as well. Doesn't work for me. Ah, well!
 
Yeah, I tried a similar method for a while - I'm a musical type as well. Doesn't work for me. Ah, well!

I wish I had a solution for you. I know you weren't asking for one, but I love meditating (when I can), and don't like it that you can't.
 
ahhhh my fav mantra is Nam Myoho Renge Kyo :)

you know repeat that (or anything, they say,) but repeating that over and over brings happiness ... *somehow* In the first analysis of the concept I am led to matter being shaped into proper proportions due to the sound vibrations occurring here. or in the repeating of said mantra... I plan to chant this later on with chapter 2 and 16 from the lotus sutra a discourse of Buddha as per => the 12th century monk and his Writings, and letters known as Nichiren Daishonin, there is an organization to this practice call The SGI or a value creation society. google what you need to... :)
 
Thanks J.Allen.

I felt relaxed just reading it.

You're welcome.

Can someone meditate more than just twice a day or is that over kill?

You can meditate as many times as you like. If you have to do it a lot, it usually means one of two things:

1] Your source of imbalance is not being addressed by the meditation.

2] You're doing it wrong.
 
I wish I could meditate. I have restless syndrome. I'm not even sure there is such a condition but I just can't relax. I always have to be doing something, and I could never get comfortable and restful. I can't sit still for more than a minute. My hands are constantly moving. My legs are constantly moving (I have RLS). My mind is always running a mile a minute.

Any tips for me to somehow just get started?
 
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