McWeeny has a theory about this movie

[Urgent Sky]

I would love it if this was true. I really like the idea of Robert April, the benevolent elder Captain from the prime universe, being reimagined as a vengeance-crazed threat to the fleet in this timeline. Appeals to me much more than Khan, Mitchell or George Lennon (or whatever he's called).

I second that. McWeeny is a sharp guy, so I wouldn't be surprised if he nailed it again.

 

[Franklin]

I would love it if this was true. I really like the idea of Robert April, the benevolent elder Captain from the prime universe, being reimagined as a vengeance-crazed threat to the fleet in this timeline. Appeals to me much more than Khan, Mitchell or George Lennon (or whatever he's called).

Could Robert April be played by Peter Weller?

Why not? The ultimate deception would be to keep letting out information that keeps people focused on speculating about Cumberbatch's character, while the truly big reveal will be Weller's character, who is getting little or no attention.

Problem is, it's been said Weller's character is new to canon. Wait. Technically, Robert April would be new to canon, wouldn't he? Hmm.

It may be April's gatling gun being used by Cumberbatch's character. Who knows?

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Porky pies?

Cockney rhyming slang for lies. We're one people, separated by a common language.

Ah, okay, Mr. Shaw.

It's been suggested that Weller is playing Admiral Marcus, Carol's father who apparently appears in the movie.

 

[Photoman15]

Drew McWeeny, one-time "Moriarty" over at Ain't It Cool News, took the Into Darkness press tour over at Bad Robot yesterday.

He has a theory about what Abrams is doing with this movie.

But… one last thing. In the trailer, you've seen the shot where Cumberbatch jumps, lands, and then swats a dude using a huge long hunk of metal. Well, that hunk of metal is what the crew on the film called "The Big Gun." That's what we were told during our tour, and as everyone was discussing it, we were standing in a room that had been specially set up for today's event.

And on the counter at the back of the room, there was a big book of production art that was open. Laying right there were anyone could see it. And on one of the two pages, there was a concept design sketch for that gun. But instead of "The Big Gun," it was called "April's Gatling Gun."

As in the gun that April uses. The gun that seems to belong to Cumberbatch in the trailer, which would suggest that Cumberbatch is April.

You see what I mean about misdirection? What if they intentionally left that there, open to that page, in the exact area where everyone was standing, just to help obfuscate everything even more?

Or… even crazier… what if they really didn't think anyone would pay attention to that, and that's really what they're doing for this film?

What if someone is getting fired today at Bad Robot for leaving the book open to that page (or even having the book there in the first place)?

 

[Captain_Amasov]

"April's Gatling Gun." Maybe the villain is actually named John Harrison and the name of the gun is simply his former commanding officer's who was killed in action. Maybe Harrison thought Starfleet abandoned them, left them to die at the hands of the Klingons or something, and now seeks revenge for it?

Now that commanding officer could still have been Robert April, and maybe he was in-command of a ship named Enterprise, just not the current one, I mean is there any reason why there couldn't have been a ship with that name prior to the NCC-1701? And if so, is it still around?

 

[Scout101]

Could have even more fun with this, and give Captain April some of Garth's backstory (which would also explain the youthful appearance)...

 

[shapeshifter]

Drew McWeeny, one-time "Moriarty" over at Ain't It Cool News, took the Into Darkness press tour over at Bad Robot yesterday.

He has a theory about what Abrams is doing with this movie.

But… one last thing. In the trailer, you've seen the shot where Cumberbatch jumps, lands, and then swats a dude using a huge long hunk of metal. Well, that hunk of metal is what the crew on the film called "The Big Gun." That's what we were told during our tour, and as everyone was discussing it, we were standing in a room that had been specially set up for today's event.

And on the counter at the back of the room, there was a big book of production art that was open. Laying right there were anyone could see it. And on one of the two pages, there was a concept design sketch for that gun. But instead of "The Big Gun," it was called "April's Gatling Gun."

As in the gun that April uses. The gun that seems to belong to Cumberbatch in the trailer, which would suggest that Cumberbatch is April.

You see what I mean about misdirection? What if they intentionally left that there, open to that page, in the exact area where everyone was standing, just to help obfuscate everything even more?

Or… even crazier… what if they really didn't think anyone would pay attention to that, and that's really what they're doing for this film?

What if someone is getting fired today at Bad Robot for leaving the book open to that page (or even having the book there in the first place)?

Or a promotion for the brilliant idea of scribbling Aprils name there and leaving it for curious eyes to discover.

 

[M'Sharak]

I'm just glad they didn't name it Porthos' Gatling Gun...

[trailer announcer voice]
"Remember Porthos? He's not missing anymore. Porthos has rematerialized... and he's pissed." [/anncr voice]

 

[Shilliam Watner]

OTOH, Cumberbatch (although he seems a bit bulkier and aged up) isn't old enough to be April

But he could still be Robert April's son ... John April.

Or Harrison April.

 

[RAMA]

Re: New Info! (Bad Robot press event/villain ID'd, etc.) *SPOILERS*

OK so Harrison is actually Robert APRIL!!!???

http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captur...us-a-better-look-at-star-trek-into-darkness/3

I just saw there was a thread on this...oops...but...I NEVER THOUGHT of April...my favorite idea so far!!

RAMA

 

[M'Sharak]

OK so Harrison is actually Robert APRIL!!!???

http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captur...us-a-better-look-at-star-trek-into-darkness/3

There - your post is in the correct thread now.

 

[Ovation]

Re: New Info! (Bad Robot press event/villain ID'd, etc.) *SPOILERS*

OK so Harrison is actually Robert APRIL!!!???

http://www.hitfix.com/motion-captur...us-a-better-look-at-star-trek-into-darkness/3

Maybe…maybe not.

 

[The Habs Fan]

The only problem with this theory is why would they cast Benicio Del Toro in the role (originally)? Unless that was also a huge planned misdirection.

 

[Captain_Amasov]

The only problem with this theory is why would they cast Benicio Del Toro in the role (originally)? Unless that was also a huge planned misdirection.

Is there any reason why Benicio Del Toro couldn't have played Robert April? As far as I know the character was conjectural anyway, so him appearing in this film would actually be his first canon appearance wouldn't it?

 

[Vektor]

I just hope they put half as much effort into actually writing this movie as they have into actively confusing people about it.

 

[Mr Silver]

April as the villain... This could really work, actually.

 

[Matt S]

Khannnnnn!!!!!
Aprillllllllllll!


hmm......

 

[Crewman Pratt]

I'm impressed by this theory! April as the bad guy. Who woulda thunk it>

 

[KirkusOveractus]

I like this theory as well! Please forgive me if it's been mentioned in this thread already, but wasn't the one concept for April that he have a British accent?

For some reason, I remember once reading or hearing that Roddenberry thought of April that way.

 

[The Wormhole]

I like this theory as well! Please forgive me if it's been mentioned in this thread already, but wasn't the one concept for April that he have a British accent?

For some reason, I remember once reading or hearing that Roddenberry thought of April that way.

James Doohan did use a British accent when he voiced April in TAS. And April has been described as British in the novels that have featured him.