so the world hasnt ended?. Godd for a moment I thought I had missed it
May 21, 2011 rapidly approaching, doomsday - ready?
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Dear Friends,
If you are reading this, it means I have been raptured. I know this may come as a surprise to many of you, as I am a most unlikely candidate. However, I realized several days ago that I had not unregistered with my heavenly affiliate program, and that due to the inept performance of the U.S. postal service, my cancellation form, along with my $250 early termination fee, will not arrive by May 21st, 2011, 6:00 PM ET.
Therefore, this automated message was set to post on the morning of May 22nd, 2011, so that you may know what happened. I set my camera to take a picture at midnight (giving allowance for time displacement), to show you the evidence of my departure, in the hopes that you, too, will become believers and repent.
All of my love and some of my pity and concern,
John
If you are reading this, it means I have been raptured. I know this may come as a surprise to many of you, as I am a most unlikely candidate. However, I realized several days ago that I had not unregistered with my heavenly affiliate program, and that due to the inept performance of the U.S. postal service, my cancellation form, along with my $250 early termination fee, will not arrive by May 21st, 2011, 6:00 PM ET.
Therefore, this automated message was set to post on the morning of May 22nd, 2011, so that you may know what happened. I set my camera to take a picture at midnight (giving allowance for time displacement), to show you the evidence of my departure, in the hopes that you, too, will become believers and repent.
All of my love and some of my pity and concern,
John
Looks like J has moved on to the Great Beyonce. Lucky stiff.Dear Friends,
If you are reading this, it means I have been raptured. I know this may come as a surprise to many of you, as I am a most unlikely candidate. However, I realized several days ago that I had not unregistered with my heavenly affiliate program, and that due to the inept performance of the U.S. postal service, my cancellation form, along with my $250 early termination fee, will not arrive by May 21st, 2011, 6:00 PM ET.
Therefore, this automated message was set to post on the morning of May 22nd, 2011, so that you may know what happened. I set my camera to take a picture at midnight (giving allowance for time displacement), to show you the evidence of my departure, in the hopes that you, too, will become believers and repent.
All of my love and some of my pity and concern,
John
George Lucas raptured my childhood.
Yes?
So: May 21, 2011 has come and (mostly) gone. The world has not ended, and no one has been caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. Believers are disappointed and confounded, and non-believers are enjoying a chuckle at their expense.
Clearly, the prediction was wrong. The Second Coming has been postponed once again--the cosmic equivalent of Duke Nukem Forever. No man knows the day or the hour.
Or, does he?
It seems to me that there is at least one alternative explanation for this latest Great Disappointment. An explanation that can be summed up in a simple modus tollens syllogism:
If the Rapture has not happened, then the prediction was wrong. (If A, then B)
But the prediction was not wrong. (Not-B)
Therefore, the Rapture has happened. (Therefore, Not-A)
But, how can this be, when no one was caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air? How can the Rapture have come and gone, if no one was raptured?
The answer is quite simple, and can be summed up in two words: free will.
Free will is nowadays the standard Christian response to the problem of evil. Why doesn't God prevent all the evil in the world? For that matter, why doesn't he simply reveal Himself to us us all, so that all may be saved?
Because (we are told) God has given us free will. In the Choose Your Own Adventure story of our lives, each of us must freely make the following choice:
God will not make this choice for us. He will not take away our freedom and autonomy. Aside from warning us of the consequences, He has left the choice up to us.
What most people do not realize, is that in such a system, it is possible for NO ONE to accept Jesus Christ as their saviour, and for EVERY ONE to be damned, as a consequence. If this was NOT possible, then our wills would not be truly free. It MUST be possible for EVERY ONE to make the wrong choice.
As a consequence of free will, we are all at least potentially damned. And if we are all potentially damned, then it is possible that we are all actually damned.
And that, I'm sorry to say, is what has happened here. The prediction was not wrong. May 21st, 2011 is (and was) Judgement Day. The Rapture has happened, right on schedule.
And no one was raptured.
We have all been judged. And we have all been found wanting. All have sinned, and fallen short of the glory of God. The door of salvation has been shut. No flesh shall be saved.
Have a nice day!
Yeah that free will crap( and thats what it is) is just another thing christians(and all the tree branches associated with it) say to explain the reason why there is no bearded bi-polar extreme guy coming down from the clouds. Kinda like most things said from christians(and family) and the bibile it contradicts other things said and read in the past.
we'll one could be cruel and tell him that he doesn't met God's standards.
My perosnal belief is that those who proclaim their belief the loudest are the ones least likely to met God (so basically all these evangelists and God bothers are SOL).
Infact they should be reminded of the parable of the widow with her lamps.
O' no I don't mock free will that is given to us at birth, not by some ghost in the sky.
No one really has free will all the time. can I go to college without paying for it(no), can I just have a little health insurance(I don't have any right now), no. Can I ask to just be simply left alone in school and not be beat up, no. frankly, free will battles real life all the time and rarely wins.
No one really has free will all the time. can I go to college without paying for it(no), can I just have a little health insurance(I don't have any right now), no. Can I ask to just be simply left alone in school and not be beat up, no. frankly, free will battles real life all the time and rarely wins.
Baloney.
Free will--what philosophers call "libertarian" free will, in which our choices are completely undetermined--is a myth. All the empirical evidence is against it.
In fact--free will isn't even a coherent concept. This becomes quite apparent as soon as you question it: instead of trying to defend this silly dogma, its supporters instead appeal to the consequences of not believing it. "If there's no free will," they wail, "how can we hold anyone responsible for anything?" As if its reality or unreality somehow depended on its social utility.
The doctrine of "free will" is a lie, and a shameless attempt to explain the obscure by means of the more obscure. It's Christianity's Chewbacca Defence.
I think anyone that believes in a rapture - a true rapture - is deluded. Every human will be dead and buried before something like that happens.
Which will be never.
Which will be never.