Matt Smith regenerates into Ncuti Gatwa

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  1. Rich Watson

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    In an "Adventure In Space and Time" that is. As some suspected Ncuti was a bit confused when he said he shot a scene with William Hartnell and was actually dropped in to replace Matt at the end of AAIT&S.

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  2. Samurai8472

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    They just pulled a "Return of the Jedi" move.
     
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  3. Rich Watson

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    Oh and they also edited out all instances of dialogue from 'An Unearthly Child' being spoken from it as well.

    Fuck Stef Coburn. Seriously.
     
  4. Emperor-Tiberius

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    This is where this shit starts to become dangerously too real. Like, the fuck?
     
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  5. David cgc

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    I do remember there being speculation about the scene being shot in such a way the incumbent Doctor could always be the one Hartnell looks at in that scene.
     
  6. Samurai8472

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    Looking forward to the 70th anniversary version where Daniel Radcliffe looks at the 1st doctor ;)
     
  7. Allyn Gibson

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    It's not speculation. Mark Gatiss designed that shot that way, and he was open about in 2013, that the scene could always been updated with the current Doctor when repeated.
     
  8. Qonundrum

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    So far, they've missed two incarnations. Three if you include Jo Martin (for whom I certainly do include.)

    They should have CGI'd Matt Smith in for post-production. Then we'd be used to it, in the event that even the slightest issue with matching up lighting or camera distance became apparent.

    Good luck with that. Maybe we'll have a new producer with new ideas at the helm as well.
     
  9. The Nth Doctor

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    While I get Gatiss' intention, I'm not a fan.

    And it just plain dumb to edit out An Unearthly Child references. How petty can you get?
     
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    At least they didn't eff up the compositing like last time. ;)
     
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  11. Chakoteya

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    Given that it is now on iPlayer (Whoniverse) probably for as long as the BBC continues to exist, theoretically that scene should get updated every time a new actor comes in. Now there would be the start of a collection. Any AI video experts out there planning to do it with every Doctor ever just to prove their editing skills to a potential employer?
     
  12. Allyn Gibson

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    Dumb? The BBC is taking Stef Coburn's copyright claims on the writing seriously.

    It does raise the issue of why it wasn't a problem in 2013. Or, Coburn wasn't aware of it in 2013, now he is, and the infringement of his copyright in 2013 is part of his issue now.
     
  13. Serveaux

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    Well, while Stef Coburn is impossible to sympathize with, the British approach to creators' IP rights is refreshing.

    I mean, the guy who invented the Daleks owned the Daleks. Mind blown.
     
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  14. Rich Watson

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    I was reading the UK law around Fair Use and I'm no Lionel Hutz but I think they could have got away with keeping them in. They've probably been advised to be overly cautious in the hopes things might change one day.

    Though if they'd made a parody of the series beginnings they'd have been fine.
     
  15. Australis

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    Please explain to the guy overseas: who is Stef Coburn, and what did they do?
     
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  16. Rich Watson

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    He's the son of the person who wrote "An Unearthly Child" and now owns the rights to the scripts, so the BBC need his permission to do anything with it.

    He's also a *takes a deep breath* racist, misogynist, homophobic, transphobic, holocaust denying Hitler apologist, Putin supporter with an utter burning hatred of the BBC who he claims killed his father.

    He's blocked the story appearing on iPlayer and it will also disappear from every place it is currently available as those contracts expire.
     
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  17. Emperor-Tiberius

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    When did he support Putin, exactly?
     
  18. Rich Watson

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    He's supports the invasion of Ukraine and has (claimed) that when he dies the rights to AUE will go to the Russian Federation, so...
     
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  19. Timewalker

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    Wow.

    Guess it's a good thing I have most of the Classic Who seasons on DVD (including An Unearthly Child).
     
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  20. Steve Roby

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    10:02 PM ยท Oct 21, 2023. Is that exact enough?

    https://twitter.com/Stef_Coburn/status/1715911364152004901

    "Exclusive interview with Russian President Vladimir Putin for Chinese TV (with English subtitles). The confidence; lucidity; complete lack of guile; & easy good humour on show, is utterly convincing."

    Took weeks of research to find this, but... actually, a couple minutes using Twitter's search function.