Marvel vs Trek: Franchise size

[The Wormhole]

The MCU simply has more durability on account of each facet is covering different ground. Iron Man is action movie fare, Thor is fantasy, Captain America political thriller, Guardians of the Galaxy space opera, Doctor Strange covers mysticism, and so on. Star Trek, is about a spaceship with variations on the theme, such as being 100 years in the past or the future, the ship being lost, a space station instead of a ship, and still a ship, but rather than the captain being the ship's lead it's a convicted mutineer on work release.

Also, the MCU isn't deliberately limiting itself by trying to adhere to the creative "vision" of a mentally ill alcoholic who has been dead for over twenty-five years.

 

[Rahul]

The MCU simply has more durability on account of each facet is covering different ground. Iron Man is action movie fare, Thor is fantasy, Captain America political thriller, Guardians of the Galaxy space opera, Doctor Strange covers mysticism, and so on. Star Trek, is about a spaceship with variations on the theme, such as being 100 years in the past or the future, the ship being lost, a space station instead of a ship, and still a ship, but rather than the captain being the ship's lead it's a convicted mutineer on work release.

Also, the MCU isn't deliberately limiting itself by trying to adhere to the creative "vision" of a mentally ill alcoholic who has been dead for over twenty-five years.

I think Star Trek works at it's best when it's ALSO covering different facets: One episode space opera, the next a romance, a social drama, a crime thriller, next a space horror, and some high-concept time-travel fuckery...

It's when Star Trek had THAT mixture - mostly during TOS and TNG, but also some seasons of VOY or DS9 - when it thrived the most. The more people try to push it into one single corner - the action genre with a clear badguy to be blow'd up - the more it has become stale.

Star Trek needs to embrace it's wildcard mixture of different genre again - vastly different types of stories, all combined through being viewed through a sci-fi lense.

 

[lawman]

^^^This!!!

(This is something the MCU does very well, too, as Wormhole noted. Even if does lean a little too heavily on "action genre with a clear bad guy to be blow'd up" as a framework sometimes, there's a clear difference in tone and style and genre from one film to the next. Enough so that it's kind of amazing that Avengers worked as well as it did, actually... in the hands of someone less talented than Whedon, it could've been a complete train wreck.)

 

[Vger23]

Comic book movies are garbage.

https://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/14/146053/3085279-i+agree.jpg

I'm not sure there's every been (or ever will be) an entertainment phenomenon that I could give less of a shit about.

 

[lawman]

Lemme guess. You never liked comic books, either?

 

[Shawnster]

Star Trek action adventure hasn't seemed as action adventurous as other franchises like star wars or MCU.

Epic proportions

 

[Greg Cox]

As somebody who has been reading comics since they were twelve cents apiece, and who has written for both Marvel and DC, I'm thoroughly enjoying the Golden Age of Comic-Book Movies and TV Series. My inner twelve-year-old is in heaven.

(And, psst, this boom is not allowed to bust until I get a SPECTRE movie. You hear me, Hollywood?)

As for comparing it to Trek. . . it's apples and oranges. Except that I've been a fan of both Star Trek and superheroes for pretty much my entire life.

 

[Vger23]

Lemme guess. You never liked comic books, either?

I liked Star Trek comic books.

 

[lawman]

(And, psst, this boom is not allowed to bust until I get a SPECTRE movie. You hear me, Hollywood?)

I take it you don't mean this one?...

 

[Greg Cox]

I take it you don't mean this one?...

Nah, I'm talking my favorite DC Comics character: The Spectre.

 

[MAGolding]

I take it you don't mean this one?...

I thought you meant Gene Roddenbury's Spectre project. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spectre_(1977_film)

 

[The Wormhole]

I thought you meant Gene Roddenbury's Spectre project.

It's spelled Roddenberry. Come on, you're a Star Trek fan, that should be second nature.

 

[Greg Cox]

It's spelled Roddenberry. Come on, you're a Star Trek fan, that should be second nature.

Legions of Trekkies can't spell Chekov or Khan.

Or canon.

 

[fireproof78]

As for comparing it to Trek. . . it's apples and oranges. Except that I've been a fan of both Star Trek and superheroes for pretty much my entire life.

Exactly.