Marriage in Nutrek

[Clancy_s]

On the topic of Spock/nu Vulcan having arranged marriages/breedings - that seems short-sighted. If anything, Vulcans should be encouraged to breed with humans. We've seen that Spock, a vulcan/human hybrid, seems to be, from a physiological standpoint, almost completely Vulcan. Given that he was able to succeed in Vulcan society, to the point where he was offered a slot at the Vulcan Science Academy, there seems to be no intellectual downside either. If Vulcans can get over their superiority complex, they'd see that the logical choice is to have more relationships with humans, not fewer.

IMO it's unlikely the Vulcans would drop their superiority notions - logic doesn't seem to take them that far. Even if it did human - Vulcan interbreeding would only work if such unions were naturally fertile and produced fertile offspring. Until and unless canon states otherwise to me Spock was the result of painstaking genetic engineering and is infertile.

To answer the original question, I would like to see an ummarried couple, or triad or Denobulan type family etc with children as much as I would like to see the same family with married parents. Not at all unless it has something important to do with the plot. Were the little girl's parents in STID married? I don't know and I don't care.

I'd rather them spend time showing a woman captain/commander who wasn't someone's girlfriend or Admiral's daughter. And only that too if it adds to the plot of the movie.

Absolutely! If I wanted soap opera I wouldn't be watching Star Trek.

 

[LobsterAfternoon]

Is there any reason to think that vulcans and humans need genetic engineering to mate? Lorian from Enterprise was a hybrid and he was the child of a human and a vulcan on a 22nd century starship without any mention of any help. We also had Sela and Simon Tarses, who were Romulan/Human and again, no mention of genetic engineering. Hell, Klingon/Trill was even possible, just with a few weeks worth of research by one doctor.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Is there any reason to think that vulcans and humans need genetic engineering to mate? Lorian from Enterprise was a hybrid and he was the child of a human and a vulcan on a 22nd century starship without any mention of any help.

Phlox has stated that it was his help that enabled Lorian to exist. Vulcans and humans were thought to be unable to procreate - I think Phlox was the first to make a treatment possible.

 

[LobsterAfternoon]

Ah, forgot that bit. Perhaps in the 22nd century, it's a bit more work. Perhaps by the 23rd century, especially in the nu-verse with its higher tech, it might be a relatively simple trick, similar to the rogam shots that some pregnant women need to get now?

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

The Prime Kirk and Marcus weren't married and had a son.

People will opt to marry/no marry in Trek for the same reasons they do now. The best thing is there won't be any narrow-minded bigots who think they know what love is and who should marry.

For example, I don't see Spock and Uhura marrying, as he'll soon come to his senses and realise what a pain in the neck she is.

 

[starburst]

Even if it did human - Vulcan interbreeding would only work if such unions were naturally fertile and produced fertile offspring. Until and unless canon states otherwise to me Spock was the result of painstaking genetic engineering and is infertile.

Since when was it said Spock was infertile?

 

[Commishsleer]

Even if it did human - Vulcan interbreeding would only work if such unions were naturally fertile and produced fertile offspring. Until and unless canon states otherwise to me Spock was the result of painstaking genetic engineering and is infertile.

Since when was it said Spock was infertile?

Yeh I reckons he's very fertile

B'Elanna was 'fertile'. K'Ehlyrr was 'fertile'. Both conceived kids without medical intervention. Yeh I know that was Human-Klingon but why would that be more/less believable the Human/Vulcan.

 

[M'Sharak]

People will opt to marry/no marry in Trek for the same reasons they do now. The best thing is there won't be any narrow-minded bigots who think they know what love is and who should marry.

Of course there will be, and doubtless some of those narrow-minded bigots will be Vulcans.

 

[Clancy_s]

Even if it did human - Vulcan interbreeding would only work if such unions were naturally fertile and produced fertile offspring. Until and unless canon states otherwise to me Spock was the result of painstaking genetic engineering and is infertile.

Since when was it said Spock was infertile?

In canon there's no information either way AFAIK, I choose to go with infertile until or unless canon states otherwise because it seems more likely to me. YMMV.

 

[LobsterAfternoon]

Given the number of hybrids in Trek, especially 2nd generation hybrids like Simon Tarses, it seems unlikely that they are infertile. But as you said, we don't have a canon answer, so mazel tov.