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Marlins closer to new ballpark

Mr. Laser Beam

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Finally they are starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel. Miami city officials have voted in favor of the new Marlins ballpark (to be built on the old Orange Bowl site). All that's left now is the *county* officials' vote, set for next Monday.

I don't care how many or few Marlins fans may be on this board, I still see this as an objective good. Obviously the team can't continue to play in Dolphin Stadium - that's a *football* stadium, for crying out loud. Obviously not suitable for baseball! Let the Miami Dolphins have it if they must, but proper baseball play demands a baseball-only park. (Plus, the Marlins' lease at Dolphin Stadium runs out in a year anyway.)

And even though the economy's down the tubes, the construction of the new ballpark will *create jobs*. Hundreds, thousands of them. Officials from all over have given the Marlins all the props for all the work they're doing. linky

I mean, I'm no huge Marlins fan either, but as far as I'm concerned, anything that gets another team a proper (i.e. baseball-only) place to play, is okay in my book! And I've seen what the new Marlins ballpark will look like. It looks absolutely kick-ass. It even has a retractable roof! :)
 
Good. I was at Dolphin stadium last year and it's kind of the same thing with Oakland. It's a bad ballpark for a baseball game.
 
Marlins WILL HAVE new ballpark

Apparently the meeting with the county commissioners happened today, but I have been unable to locate the results. Here's hoping...

Edit: WE WON! IT PASSED! MARLINS ARE GETTING A NEW PARK! Linky 1 Linky 2 :techman: :techman: :techman:

See you all in 2012...cheering for the Miami Marlins at their brand new ballpark. :)
 
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The Marlins new ballpark looks really :cool: & beautiful. Like the retractable roof.

I remember hearing the Marlins were going to become the Miami Marlins. Is that still on the Marlins' agenda?
 
The few fans they have just have a new place to go to. In many cases, new stadiums attract fans. But I don't think the stadium was the problem with the Marlins. Their firesales were a bigger thing than anything else.
 
I think attendance will go up. Landshark Stadium sucks for baseball, we all know it. Once they get a *real* ballpark, attendance will take off.
 
Philadelphia Phillies average attendance #'s

2003: 28,973 (14th)
2004: 40,626 (4th)
2005: 33,316 (13th)

Pittsburgh Pirates #'s
2000: 21,591 (??)
2001: 30,839 (17)
2002: 22,594 (22)

Detroit Tigers
1998: 17,400
1999: 25,174
2000: 30,106 (new park opens)
2001: 24,012
2002: 18,563

Attendance spikes the year the ballpark opens, but then drops considerably.

Florida's average attendance has ranked in the bottom three every year since 2001 with the exception of their post-WS year, when they climbed all the way up to #5 worst. They have now had the worst average attendance four years in a row. I don't see a new ballpark having a lasting impact, sorry.
 
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JonathonWally said:
People don't care about the stadium a team plays in
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I disagree. Crappy stadiums...like this one...can drive fans away.

I still insist that there are potential Marlins fans who will start going once the new ballpark comes up. (Ditto for the Twins - you think anybody actually likes the Metrodome? It's a piece of shit, just like Landshark Stadium.) Attendance may spike and then go back down, but it can hardly make things *worse* in the long run.

Besides, not only will the construction of these new ballparks create many new jobs, but the teams themselves get better deals out of it. The Twins don't get jackshit from the Dome (AFAIK, all of the revenue from the luxury boxes goes to the Vikings, and the Twins get only a small part of concessions sales), and the Marlins also get screwed by the terms of their lease at Landshark.
 
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Mr. Laser Beam said:
I think attendance will go up. Landshark Stadium sucks for baseball, we all know it. Once they get a *real* ballpark, attendance will take off.
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The thing is, I don't think it's the stadium causing the lack of fans. The stadium was built in the 80s. It's not as bad as some of the ones that were replaced recently.

The problem is that the team sold off its players one too many times and now nobody trusts them.
 
Yup. The problem with the Marlins is that they're the Marlins.

If the product on the field isn't consistently there, the fans won't be there. Regardless of where the team is playing.
 
Alidar Jarok said:
The stadium was built in the 80s. It's not as bad as some of the ones that were replaced recently.
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True dat. At least Landshark is still a decent football stadium (in the end, that's all it ever was). It wasn't as overtly, obviously, indisputably a pile of shit like the Vet, Three Rivers, RFK Stadium, post-Mount Davis Oakland Coliseum, etc.

As for the Marlins: Their grounds crew has got to be loving this new stadium, 'cuz the problems with weather down there are legendary. Tarp Trouble
 
^Yeah, this year. They've been good in the past too (2003!) and then sell all of their talent.

I'm sure part of it is that a good portion of Florida's population are transplants from other areas of the country who probably already have allegiances to other teams, and other people are going to the beach over the summer and NOT to baseball games. When the new park opens people will check it out once just to see the stadium, and resume their normal non-baseball-attending habits. That's just my guess.
 
Wow, did the Marlins piss in a lot of people's cornflakes or what? :lol:

Oh well. They've got their new place, I could give a damn what the haters say. Mission accomplished. :)
 
Mr. Laser Beam said:
Wow, did the Marlins piss in a lot of people's cornflakes or what? :lol:
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No, I'm just offering a rational explanation for their attendance, rather than attribute everything to "old stadium" without thinking things through. I've had quite a bit of experience with the Marlins and it tends to come down to things other people have said. There's a lack of trust in the team so they can't build a fanbase and many people in the area are transplants, so they have allegiances to other teams.
 
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