Marilyn Manson & The Matrix

[TrickyDickie]

Blamed unfairly, ad nauseum, after Columbine. What's your view of these?

I was formerly a devotee of easy listening music until I met my wife and she introduced me to metal. Marilyn Manson is now one of my favorite artists. He has some good messages in a lot of his music, for anyone who takes the time to really listen. His brand of showmanship might not be for everyone, but we should all learn to just live and let live. I don't see where he is a negative influence as he has been portrayed. Really enjoy his This Is Halloween from The Nightmare Before Christmas.

I also thought that the Matrix movies were rather well done.

 

[TheBrew]

I like pie. Especially apple pie with a cinnamon crust. Mmm...

I however do not like my burgers well done.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

I like pie. Especially apple pie with a cinnamon crust. Mmm...

I however do not like my burgers well done.

Anything more than medium is just an insult to meat.

 

[Kemaiku]

Blamed unfairly, ad nauseum, after Columbine. What's your view of these?

I was formerly a devotee of easy listening music until I met my wife and she introduced me to metal. Marilyn Manson is now one of my favorite artists. He has some good messages in a lot of his music, for anyone who takes the time to really listen. His brand of showmanship might not be for everyone, but we should all learn to just live and let live. I don't see where he is a negative influence as he has been portrayed. Really enjoy his This Is Halloween from The Nightmare Before Christmas.

I also thought that the Matrix movies were rather well done.

Have all of his albums, have listened for years, and am sick of metal being blamed in general, like computer games, for encouraging violence.

 

[Pingfah]

Is metal really seriously still scapegoated by anybody with even a sliver of credibility?

I can't say i've noticed this attitude being particularly prevalent these days, and most people who do express these views tend to be the objects of ridicule from most of the mainstream media.

Manson is a choirboy compared to a lot of metal acts out there anyway.

 

[DonIago]

Blaming Manson and the Matrix was just the Evil Trenchcoats' way of diverting attention from Themselves.

And since you can still buy trenchcoats, it clearly worked.

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Is metal really seriously still scapegoated by anybody with even a sliver of credibility?

Nah, I think rap/hip-hop are scapegoated more nowadays.

 

[Goliath]

Is metal really seriously still scapegoated by anybody with even a sliver of credibility?

Nah, I think rap/hip-hop are scapegoated more nowadays.

Indeed. According to America's finest news source, The Onion, Eminem supplanted Marilyn Manson as middle-America's worst nightmare almost ten years ago: see here.

I think Manson's music profits by selection, but I do really like some of his stuff. The two of his albums that I actually own are Antichrist Superstar and Golden Age of Grotesque.

 

[TrickyDickie]

For the most part, I detest rap. I do like some of Eminem's stuff, but not all of it. I also like a few of Young Buck's (who I keep wanting to call Uncle Buck ) songs and that's about it. After a while, all of that same old same old about who somebody's gonna shoot and whose b*tch they're gonna f*ck gets really annoying.

 

[RJDiogenes]

The Thought Police have always scapegoated Pop Culture: Penny Dreadfuls, Pulps, Comics, Rock'n'Roll, movies, TV, video games. Exploiting tragedy to promote their own ideology is one of their favorite tricks.

 

[Davros]

I've always veiwed Marilyn Manson as an Alice Cooper wanna be.

 

[Sephiroth]

you know, I'd say it's bullshit, but the first thing I wanted to do after seeing Reloaded was to kick the crap out of something

 

[Data Holmes]

The Thought Police have always scapegoated Pop Culture: Penny Dreadfuls, Pulps, Comics, Rock'n'Roll, movies, TV, video games. Exploiting tragedy to promote their own ideology is one of their favorite tricks.

There is another segment to it as well, the "not my child" parents who are looking to blame anyone but themselves for being bad parents, or their kids for being bad people.

 

[Amaris]

you know, I'd say it's bullshit, but the first thing I wanted to do after seeing Reloaded was to kick the crap out of something

That may have more to do with the quality of the movie than anything else.

 

[Jack Bauer]

I don't get the connection between Marilyn Manson and The Matrix.

 

[Servo]

Aside from them both being blamed for schoolyard shootings, the only other connection is that Manson's "Rock is Dead" plays over the end credits of The Matrix (after RATM's "Wake Up").

 

[Kemaiku]

Is metal really seriously still scapegoated by anybody with even a sliver of credibility?

Nah, I think rap/hip-hop are scapegoated more nowadays.

Bingo. And even that scapegoating is growing old.

 

[DonIago]

I say it's past time Country Western was called to account for its myriad sins! Who's with me?

 

[Robert Maxwell]

Alan Jackson is the real Antichrist here.

 

[FordSVT]

I've always veiwed Marilyn Manson as an Alice Cooper wanna be.

So does Marilyn Manson. He's very self-aware.