My own take is that Reed should have been the first officer and act as a counterpoint to Archers more idealestic approach. T'Pol shouldn't have been in the ships command structure and been there as an advisor only.
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My own take is that Reed should have been the first officer and act as a counterpoint to Archers more idealestic approach. T'Pol shouldn't have been in the ships command structure and been there as an advisor only.
T'Pol only limited to an advisor would've gotten rid of a lot of dramatic tension and weakened her position a lot. I think T'Pol was the more interesting choice for first officer.
I'd still liked Malcolm to have had a bigger role. TPTB teased that one of their characters may have been gay. Reed should've been gay, ENT was ST's last chance to do a gay character while it was still a groundbreaking issue instead of it now being something that Trek is decades behind on.
I'd still liked Malcolm to have had a bigger role. TPTB teased that one of their characters may have been gay. Reed should've been gay, ENT was ST's last chance to do a gay character while it was still a groundbreaking issue instead of it now being something that Trek is decades behind on.
Reed being gay not only would have worked from a socially progressive standpoint (though moreso if such a thing had happened during DS9, or dare I say it, TNG's run), but given his family history and general demeanor, and the fact that the show is the earliest-set Trek series, there might have been some dramatic potential there for him to be uncomfortable with his homosexuality, perhaps even in a time when it was widely accepted. I.e. nobody would have cared except him, but for him it would have been a big deal in any case.
Now, that might be the longest sentence I've ever written.
Now, that might be the longest sentence I've ever written.
T'Pol was too immature, negative and unhelpful to be in the role she was. In other words, she was a crummy Vulcan. In fact, the Enterprise Vulcans were crummy Vulcans. Bunch of sourpusses. I've no qualms with Reed being gay but I don't see the ST powers-that-be having the guts to go where no ST had gone before.
Isn't that in the Vulcan job description?
Isn't that in the Vulcan job description?
Spock and Tuvok could be humorless sticks-in-the-mud but they weren't negative and unhelpful. They were essentially positive, sympathetic characters. The Vulcans in Enterprise, for the most part, are just condescending jerks.
Again, part of the job description,
So was Tuvok...just more rarely. Remember when they went back in time to 1990s Los Angeles and he remarked that they could have worn their Starfleet uniforms and no one would have noticed? That was funny.
That's why he's the best.
Vulcan's on ENT were supposed to be sticks in the mud, they were keeping humanity down. T'Pol at the start was there to impose the Vulcan agenda. She of course slowly goes native and becomes pro-human advancement.
Nope. I quite liked Malcolm.
Didn't really like Mayweather and was pretty ambivalent about T'Pol, Trip and Archer though...
Again, part of the job description,
I hope you're trying to be clever because if you aren't you misunderstand the Vulcans from TOS through VOY
Trying?????? I hope I'm succeeding!!!!!
I totally get the Vulcans. They oddly enough, represent a very conservative streak in the mythos. Spock being an exception some of the time. They are overly cautious, slow to change, stuck in the past and convinced of their own superiority. As such they make excellent fall guys for McCoy and other acerbic types. Free spirits like Neelix also grate on them. Sure they like to spout platitudes like IDIC, but they don't seem to practice it. Fans need to remember Vulcans and their ways are not the ideal in Star Trek. More often than not they tend to learn lessons like go with your gut, lead with your heart and take a chance will win the day. You know, being human, The few times we see them in TOS-VOY they're not usually sympathetic characters. T'Pring, T'Pau, Stonn, Solok and even Sarek to name a few.
I agree that the characters you listed could be unsympathetic but they weren't supposed to be unsympathetic as a basic character trait. T'Pol and the other Enterprise Vulcans were too uncharacteristically negative . They were out of character compared to the Vulcans from previous series.
I don't think so. As I stated, T'Pol, Sovol and other characters start off as unsympathetic,they follow the Vulcans' wish to slow humanity's reach for the stars. They come around. By the series end they are fighting the more conservative elements of Vulcan society in support of humanity. T'Pol especially. Her relationship with Trip and the pain over the loss of her daughter created a lot of sympathy from me. More so than T'Pring's willingness to use deceit to arrange for her fiance to murder or be murdered, T'Pau's casual racism or Sarek's stubborn refusal to speak to his son.
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I respect your difference of opinion. Fair enough.
Yes, The discover the true word of Sarak and begin to change, but remain dicks well into the 24th Century.
For some reason T'Pol is in spellcheck, but other Vulcan names aren't.
nothing like a lil bit of retcon to explain why the Vulcan doesn't act like a Vulcan
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