Mad Men countdown

[Warped9]

Regardless, interpreting the resolution your own way is fine. It's another to turn around and suddenly declare the man's creative vision as "shit" simply because one doesn't agree with it when the intent is revealed. That's nothing more than a damn temper tantrum.

Go to hell. I simply expressed an opinion of him writing it one way and then declaring it's something else.

It's a fantastic series and he wrote the ending as ambiguous. So I'm taking it at face value. If he wanted everyone to accept the ending a certain way then he should have fucking wrote it that way.

It wasn't that ambiguous to me. I saw the ending and in about 2 seconds I put it together as Wiener had (apparently) intended.

Don was sad.
Don had a breakthrough.
Don was happy and at peace.
Show commercial from an account Don had that was happy about about peace.

Where's the confusion there? Do need Draper to shout from the cliff "HEY! I HAVE THIS GREAT IDEA FOR A COMMERCIAL FOR COCA-COLA ABOUT SINGING! I'M GOING TO WRITE IT WHEN I GO BACK TO MY JOB!"

I didn't say his creative vision was shit. Hell, his vision gave us a fantastic series. I was expressing that him coming out after the fact and saying what he thinks the ending should be in face of the ambiguous one filmed was shit. I meant to express emphatic disagreement.

 

[marillion]

I wonder what the person/people who actually DID write that Coke commercial think about all the hub-bub surrounding this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/19/business/media/coke-spot-mad-men-finale.html

1. That's really cool.

2. I had NO idea McCann Erikson was a real agency...

Learn something new every day!

 

[Karzak]

Go to hell. I simply expressed an opinion of him writing it one way and then declaring it's something else.

It's a fantastic series and he wrote the ending as ambiguous. So I'm taking it at face value. If he wanted everyone to accept the ending a certain way then he should have fucking wrote it that way.

It wasn't that ambiguous to me. I saw the ending and in about 2 seconds I put it together as Wiener had (apparently) intended.

Don was sad.
Don had a breakthrough.
Don was happy and at peace.
Show commercial from an account Don had that was happy about about peace.

Where's the confusion there? Do need Draper to shout from the cliff "HEY! I HAVE THIS GREAT IDEA FOR A COMMERCIAL FOR COCA-COLA ABOUT SINGING! I'M GOING TO WRITE IT WHEN I GO BACK TO MY JOB!"

I didn't say his creative vision was shit. Hell, his vision gave us a fantastic series. I was expressing that him coming out after the fact and saying what he thinks the ending should be in face of the ambiguous one filmed was shit. I meant to express emphatic disagreement.

Nope.

 

[Dick Whitman]

Some of the reactions to this finale remind me of those to the end of "The Dark Knight Rises". That based on Nolan's previous film "Inception" that Bruce must have died and it was all Alfred's dream or imagination. Which ignores all the build up and clues that Bruce survived.

So in this case some assume that given Weiner worked on The Sopranos, though not even the creator, this ending is ambiguous too. But this ending was being foreshadowed for a long time. Anytime Coke was mentioned this season.

 

[Karzak]

There does seem to be a little bit too much being read into that particular inter-connective tissue (and thus the assumption that the end must be similarly be ambiguous, if only by reason of association), that's for sure.

 

[Green Shirt]

I find it entirely possible that while Don was re-evolving back to Dick that he could have found peace with himself and still have created the Coke ad. The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive events. Whether he's DonDick, or DickDon, he's still a Mad Man at heart. Its what he is.

 

[Karzak]

Matthew Weiner reveals what he and the writers would have liked to follow up on if they'd had the time:

Sal, Faye, Gun Sales: Matthew Weiner's 'Mad Men' Final Season "Wish List" Revealed

 

[Beagleman]

I would have liked Sal but there really was no logical place for him in what we got.

 

[Karzak]

Sorry for the bump, but this is sort of relevant. Yesterday apparently was "Mad Men" day in Los Angeles, and the cast and crew gathered to commemorate the fabulous show they created.

Los Angeles Was Matthew Wiener's Muse For 'Mad Men'

According to Weiner, Los Angeles served as his muse for Mad Men and the city's historic architecture inspired him to create the show. As cast and crew of the show gathered on the steps of L.A. City Hall yesterday to be honored by the City Council, Weiner explained, "Los Angeles is my muse, and I would have never have thought of the show if I didn't live here among all these buildings from this period."

Neat!

 

[the G-man]

... and ties in nicely with Don's attraction to, if not outright need for occasional contact with, California.

 

[Karzak]

Apologies for the necro.

As part of its Emmy coverage, The Hollywood Reporter has a spread regarding how to write series finales, with a detailed a little insight with Matthew Weiner and his process in writing the Mad Men finale "Person to Person" :

Emmys: 'Mad Men' and 'Silicon Valley' Scribes Reveal How to Write a Finale

 

[Kor]

Well, Mad Men has been over for a while.

Is it time for a spin-off show? AMC seems to like doing that lately. Perhaps the adventures of the Campbells in their new abode...

Also, those who watch older movies may find the following to be interesting.

Tony Curtis starred in the farce "Don't Make Waves" in 1967, as an East Coast business executive who moves out to California to get away. Misadventure ensues.

Imagine that Mad Men's season 7 (part 2) never happened, and instead, imagine that Tony Curtis's character is actually Don.

Kor

 

[the G-man]

There already was a "Mad Men" spinoff. Pete and Trudy's daughter converted to Judaism, married a fellow named Edison and then had a daughter named Annie, who enrolled at Greendale College

 

[Karzak]

Frankly, I'd much rather see a show about Sally growing up in the '70s and '80s.

 

[Kor]

...and to tie in with other AMC properties, in the early 80s she gets involved in the burgeoning industry of personal computing, and, using those Madison Avenue business tactics she learned as a kid, leads a company that provides cutthroat competition to Lee Pace and co.

And then the zombies arrive.

Kor

 

[the G-man]

Frankly, I'd much rather see a show about Sally growing up in the '70s and '80s.

Sally was about 16 when the show ended in 1970. She'd be fully grown and out of college by about 1975 and a full blown member of the "Big Chill"/"thirty-something" generation by the mid-'80s.

 

[Karzak]

Frankly, I'd much rather see a show about Sally growing up in the '70s and '80s.

Sally was about 16 when the show ended in 1970. She'd be fully grown and out of college by about 1975 and a full blown member of the "Big Chill"/"thirty-something" generation by the mid-'80s.

So?

Growing up might not be the most accurate term, but it conveys the message. (Were you done growing up by the time you were sixteen?) The point is, I think a show about Sally living in the '70s and '80s would still be worth watching.