I am also open to taking over Star Wars if given full control.
Luke wakes up from a bad dream, only to find Han Solo in the shower.
Luke wakes up from a bad dream, only to find Han Solo in the shower.
Lucas open to returning to Star Wars if given full control
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I guess I wouldn't really call that 'fleshed out'. The actual details are pretty bare-bones.
I was watching Jenny Nicholson's video on the Forces of Destiny toy line the other day - I guess some of you know her since she produces a lot of Star Wars content. She mentioned how certain shows would use webseries as a kind of jumping off point for kids to make up their own stories. So, if you make a webisode where everyone was going to a party and one girl didn't get invited, that would be an interesting hook for them to make their own stories. And if you had lots of dolls with several disimilar looks and interests, that would also be great for imagination.
That's kind of how I see Lucas' approach to planets and people, especially in the PT. I know that sounds like a bad thing because of the dolls comparison, but I don't mean it like it. I don't think the planets are really fleshed out in the prequels, but Lucas was good at giving each planet and its inhabitants a very different look and feel using relatively superficial details. The Kaminoans live on a water planet. They're tall and thin with long necks, and they have relatively sedate way of speaking. That makes them instantly unique, and it's a great jumping off point for people, both general viewers and EU writers, develop those planets and species themselves. That's something that happened in the OT, though not quite as much. Guessing that's mostly down to the lack of greenscreen at the time.
Perhaps fleshed out isn't the best term but for SW planets I think its done well enough.
There's still solid, OK world building in the ST (plus RO and Solo) but it's less flashy, decayed, paramilitary, and more subtle (even if most planets seem drab and flat in comparison to the vivid Prequel era).
Also I can't shake the feeling that the excessive, pretentious criticisms of the PT (by RLM and their ilk) had a partial, indirect impact on the internal creative flaws for the ST movies....
Also I can't shake the feeling that the excessive, pretentious criticisms of the PT (by RLM and their ilk) had a partial, indirect impact on the internal creative flaws for the ST movies....
I feel the same way, with the writers leaning towards show not tell.
^I like the detail of Palpatine's citadel on Exegol having giant Sith statues very similar in size and appearance to the giant Jedi statues on Jakku from RO. And Exegol itself arguably a water world like the Jedi sanctuary world of Ahch-To (though far more stormy looking).
Not all by themselves but perhaps as one of the mouthpieces for the big crowd of relatively old Gen X-ers bashing the Prequels for many, many years (with Simon Pegg, a supporting actor for TFA, melodramatically comparing the Prequel movies to "infanticide").
Not all by themselves but perhaps as one of the mouthpieces for the big crowd of relatively old Gen X-ers bashing the Prequels for many, many years (with Simon Pegg, a supporting actor for TFA, melodramatically comparing the Prequel movies to "infanticide").
Indeed. The level of vitriol and hyperbole from the fan community was quite intense and rather violent in its description.
The Phantom Menace was obviously nowhere near as good as The Empire Strikes Back, alongside Solo. But not being the best movies in the franchise didn't stop them from being un-entertaining (I've even got the VHS for TPM in a box somewhere).
IMO, venomous fan rage started to slowly gain traction with the '97 Special Editions, IMO, my favourite cut (like the '92 Director's Cut of Blade Runner) even though it was a bit over ambitious with 90s CGI meshing with 70s/80s SFX and was trying to "fix" things not really broken in places (hello Greedo shooting first with early Photoshop).
But I wasn't bothered by most of the changes at the time (IMO, adding to the odd charm and speaks of the overwhelming strength of the original cuts) and it won me over for life.
After listening to the rantings and wailings of JJ Abrams, Kath Kennedy and Rian Johnson (three of the biggest creative forces in Hollywood) supposedly being unforgivable hack frauds in recent years, the gradual creative downfall of George Lucas seems overblown by extension and on hindsight.
Both are overblown, in my opinion. But, Lucas' enduring that level of castigation makes it very difficult to think he will return.
Oh goodness, I think the first two PT movies have enough problems that I'd rather watch TFA and TLJ first in a heartbeat, though I don't think George Lucas was ever a total incompetent and still had his moments with the PT; he just got rusty and unfiltered (BTW Attack Of The Clones weighed down the PT like Rise Of Skywalker weighed down the ST).
Accusing Lucas of "raping" his own product isn't valid.
The PT are far from my favorite films, and they definitely have their problems, from the acting, to the CGI and story pacing. I think ROTS has a terrible pacing because it is cramming the end of the war in to it.
But, even with all those valid points Lucas, and the rest, did not deserve the personal animosity shown towards them.
Ah well, it’s not like he called Disney ‘white slavers’ and blamed the fans for not liking the prequels. And I like how he didn’t stuff new things into the OT and then not give people the option to buy the old versions.
I don’t think he deserves all of the personal animosity he got, but I also don’t think he reacted to things in the best way at all. Given the huge amount he made from the PT and how he’s not been a particularly nice guy to others, I find it hard to feel sorry for him.
I don't feel sorry for him-I just feel it is undeserved at the level of personal attacks, and the sudden turn of "Oh, if Lucas comes back it will amazing!" is so hypocritical it makes me laugh.
I don’t think the same people who disliked the prequels are the ones hoping Lucas will come back. That’s why I said above that if Disney ever make Star Wars more focused on the fans (existing fans prior to the ST), then Lucas would be a good bet.
I don't think it is a good bet, and I think the people who are dissatisfied with the ST want Lucas back, regardless of attitude towards the PT.
In general, I don't think it is a good idea, and don't think it will happen.
Honestly, thinking back, the war and politics in Revenge Of The Sith seemed to make it more solid and cohesive in many ways than The Force Awakens (which got criticized for a almost inexplicably powerful First Order and weak, ill prepared New Republic). They're both decent films and around the mid ranking SW films for me on hindsight.
Not everything George Lucas touched past 1983 automatically turned to crap (for example Biggs Darklighter scene) but he had his time in the sun and lost something with his divorce from editor wife.
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