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Lt. Keyla Detmer appreciation thread

Unless, of course, there is something wrong with them, and it would be unethical for Culber not to insist, pester and harass.

I mean, since when were prosthetics treated as working well in TOS? It's probably not that TOS doctors are total klutzes - they are likely to get the most demanding jobs of today so right that we can't tell there are machine bits inside the affected heroes there. But then they face even more demanding jobs, and there they run to the limits of their skills and have to leave some bits showing and still can't get the things to work well enough.

The goalposts would have moved in the intervening millennia, and while it might still require visible stitches and bolts to attach an all-new head to a body, the repairing of a lost eye and associated quarter of a skull could probably be done without needing to leave the service hatches visible or even extant.

(Perhaps Detmer got her gear fixed all right, though, and just chose to keep the jewelry bits?)

Timo Saloniemi
 
...Other than, well, every single instance of prosthetics being described in dialogue bringing up something being wrong with them:

- LaForge's VISOR causes pain
- Picard's heart requires maintenance and sometimes fails
- Nog's leg feels wrong
- Rutherford's implant is of the wrong sort and always acts up
- Bareil's positronics fail him
- Airiam's body and brain aren't up to human specs

Prosthetics exist for the purpose of being a handicap and downright faulty (the studio logic), but medical technology ought to improve with time (in-universe logic). Ergo, it's unethical to retain centuries-old prosthetics. DSC is just a particularly interesting case due to the exceptionally large numbers of injured and patched-up people witnessed aboard, either due to Burnham's War or then because the science ship was dumping grounds for bright people physically unfit to serve elsewhere.

Timo Saloniemi
 
It's also unethical to remove a part of a person if they don't want it removed. So, Detmer should make the determination if appropriate. Thus far, I can't recall Detmer saying there was an issue with her prosthetics, unlike Picard or LaForge. So, I'm going to assume that it functions OK.
 
Starfleet probably wouldn't remove a malignant tumor from an employee without permission, yes. They may be possessive of their assets, but they don't even require Riker to remain fit or anything. Suffering and subpar existence is permitted, to a degree.

But Starfleet did insist on the heroes upgrading their communicators and phasers. The former might not have worked well with the modern network, but the latter still did their job. Newer simply was better, and required. I don't see how Detmer could dodge that one. That is, I don't see any way for her to argue her gear is good enough if the phasers aren't.

Timo Saloniemi
 
If it doesn't interfere in the course of her duties then it's a nonissue. Thus far, it has not, by appearances, impacted her performance. Or updated technologically while retaining physical appearance at her request.
 
Ah Lt Detmer, the show finally spent enough time on you in S3 that I learned your name through actual dialogue on the show and not by typing "Discovery red head bridge crew" into Google.
 
...Other than, well, every single instance of prosthetics being described in dialogue bringing up something being wrong with them:

- LaForge's VISOR causes pain
- Picard's heart requires maintenance and sometimes fails
- Nog's leg feels wrong
- Rutherford's implant is of the wrong sort and always acts up
- Bareil's positronics fail him
- Airiam's body and brain aren't up to human specs

Prosthetics exist for the purpose of being a handicap and downright faulty (the studio logic), but medical technology ought to improve with time (in-universe logic). Ergo, it's unethical to retain centuries-old prosthetics. DSC is just a particularly interesting case due to the exceptionally large numbers of injured and patched-up people witnessed aboard, either due to Burnham's War or then because the science ship was dumping grounds for bright people physically unfit to serve elsewhere.

Timo Saloniemi

Nog's leg shouldn't be on that list - it's explicit that the issue is psychological rather than a fault with the prosthesis.
 
So, in line with the theme I've set for this thread, does anyone think we'll get more backstory on Detmers' life? We know for instance that she got her pilots' license at the age of 12. I for one would like to hear and/or see more about how that all came about.
She was probably on a colony world, and became essentially a bush pilot at 12. She joined Starfleet as soon as she could after being sponsored by Admiral Robau on a tour to her colony.
 
Call me weird, but I actually like the prosthetic. She's beautiful without it in pics I've seen prior to the injury, but it's aesthetically pleasing to me in some way I can't quite quantify. I think in part at least because it draws attention to her face; she just makes it work.
On this I completely agree
 
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