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Spoilers Lower Decks General Discussion Thread

‘Star Trek: Lower Decks’ EP Mike McMahan On That TNG Cameo and LGBTQ Characters in Season 2

https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/star-trek-lower-decks-season-1-finale-riker-troi-1234798405/

no Troi next season even though some of it takes place on the Titan. :(

There’s an episode in the first season where you meet Mariner’s close friend, confidant, and probably lover from the Academy days,

Well that made the Vulcan chick's antagonism with Mariner all kinds of interesting.
 
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So part of next season will be on the Titan.

Also, they pull a Rowling and tell us Mariner (and maybe everyone else) are bi, and we just didn't see it.
 
Also, they pull a Rowling and tell us Mariner (and maybe everyone else) are bi, and we just didn't see it.
To be fair, there are a couple of instances where Mariner remarks that another woman is hot. For me, that wasn't really enough to make the determination that she's bi, but there is at least something already there for the writers to build on.
 
They could've done more. They could've made her a little more flirtatious with Captain Ramsey. They could've tossed in some strategically naked women in the Olympics gymnasium. They could've had her talk about how attractive she found Deanna Troi (oh wait, they did).

Maybe they were just being careful for the first season, and the second season will be a little more "bold" in its portrayal of non-straight sexuality. Maybe she and Jennifer can hit it off for a few episodes.
 
And for the finale one of the themes that we hadn’t hit on for the season yet that explicitly was metaphorically saying something about problems and the world right now. We needed a villain that kind of matched the re-rise of fascism, this thing that we thought we’d nipped in the bud is back! That’s why he wanted to take a character that was kind of a joke from the TNG episodes and say, what if, because they were a joke, people didn’t take them seriously enough, and they got too powerful, and now they are actually dangerous and people are paying with their lives for not taking them seriously?
Didn't see that connection, but it's hilarious XD
 
I love how in the season finale:

1) The show paid homage to TAS by showing Kirk and Spock in a picture, and the art style in that picture was straight out of TAS!

2) The Titan crew was still wearing First Contact/Insurrection/Nemesis uniforms and combadge. Up until now I've always wondered if, once Starfleet issues new uniforms for all Starfleet personnel, they all had to start wearing the new uniforms at the same time or if they just said "Everyone has to start wearing the new uniforms by so-and-so date" (I'm not counting variations of the same uniforms, like the turtleneck versions of the TNG uniforms as seen in DS9 seasons 1-3). Now I have my answer. I know it's a minute thing to wonder, but I love small things like that.

Also I just wanna say one more thing: even though I now think this show is canon, I still think that if another Trekkie told me that a certain Trek show or movie wasn't canon to them but that they had no problem with anyone who thinks all Trek shows and movies were canon I would just say "Cool. You do you." I certainly wouldn't get on their case about it. Live and let live, I say. If some rando thinks that something isn't canon to them and no one else then what's the big deal? If they were acting obnoxious and going around and saying that everyone else is wrong except them then that would be a different story. But I wasn't doing that.
 
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2) The Titan crew was still wearing First Contact/Insurrection/Nemesis uniforms and combadge. Up until now I've always wondered if, once Starfleet issues new uniforms for all Starfleet personnel, they all had to start wearing the new uniforms at the same time or if they just said "Everyone has to start wearing the new uniforms by so-and-so date" (I'm not counting variations of the same uniforms, like the turtleneck versions of the TNG uniforms as seen in DS9 seasons 1-3). Now I have my answer. I know it's a minute thing to wonder, but I love small things like that.

DS9 already showed us that uniforms can vary between assignments. When Sisko was temporally reassigned to Earth, he switched to the later TNG series uniform.

He was also wearing the TNG uniform at the start of 'Emissary Part 1', and switched to the DS9/VOY uniform sometime during the 2 episodes.

Although the badge difference is a bit odd. Everyone switched to the TNG movie badge at the same time I'm pretty sure.
 
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The difference is that we don't get to define canon. Different continuity? Sure. Canon is CBS defined.

The thing is, if some dude you've never met before thinks that such and such isn't canon to him, and he's not going around being an ass about it, how does what he thinks about canon affect your life?
 
The thing is, if some dude you've never met before thinks that such and such isn't canon to him, and he's not going around being an ass about it, how does what he thinks about canon affect your life?
It makes a conversation challenging if we're not starting from common ground.

Overall, my life is relatively unaffected with what goes on here. Same with if STAR TREK completely vanished tomorrow.

But, if we're going to talk a show then some sort of mutual understanding is necessary. Otherwise, discussion is limited.
 
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