It's sad that the petition still only has 1 vote.
Then go vote for it. The Klingon Empire needs your support! Plus, it doesn't get made public until it gets 150 votes so no one can see it on the site yet.
Louisiana petitions Obama for secession.
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Then go vote for it. The Klingon Empire needs your support! Plus, it doesn't get made public until it gets 150 votes so no one can see it on the site yet.
What makes him think the U.S. is going to take millions of refugees from another nation?
Alabama as a nation? Can anyone say Chechnya part II?
There's a petition going to let Austin withdraw from Texas and remain part of the USA.
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...tate-texas-remain-part-united-states/TDD212hQ
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/pe...tate-texas-remain-part-united-states/TDD212hQ
I can’t think of any realistic scenario in which secession would be legitimate. It strikes at the very heart of democracy. “Let’s agree to settle disputes democratically, but only if my side wins the vote. If we lose the vote, we will repudiate this agreement and refuse to participate in the democratic process by which we agreed to settle our differences.” That’s not democracy. When you agree to participate in a democracy, you agree to abide by the outcome of the democratic process no matter whether the majority votes with you or against you.
From the "no shit" department: Governor not signing Tennessee's secession petition -- Auto play video on the page.
So if 99.9% of a states population voted by some democratic means say a referrendum to secede that would strike at the heart of democracy?
What these petitions mount to are sour grapes that the side you don't support won. Well guess what that happens sometimes in a democarcy.
Which means the next question is why did the side I support lose?
One of the best places for a political party to occupt is the centre groud. I.e they are centre-right, centre or centre-left on the poltical axis. The benefits of this position is that you you should in theory have broad appeal. To far to the right or the left means that you narrow your appeal to voters. Many political parties around the world have politicans within them that are more to the right or left than the majority of the party. Though what can happen from time to time the moderates in the party become outnumbered by the people who lean more to the right or left, if they start to dominate policy it can have an adverse affect.
What these petitions mount to are sour grapes that the side you don't support won. Well guess what that happens sometimes in a democarcy.
Which means the next question is why did the side I support lose?
One of the best places for a political party to occupt is the centre groud. I.e they are centre-right, centre or centre-left on the poltical axis. The benefits of this position is that you you should in theory have broad appeal. To far to the right or the left means that you narrow your appeal to voters. Many political parties around the world have politicans within them that are more to the right or left than the majority of the party. Though what can happen from time to time the moderates in the party become outnumbered by the people who lean more to the right or left, if they start to dominate policy it can have an adverse affect.
Thanks for the support, but unfortunately the petition has been removed by a site moderator. Apparently it violated the ToS because " The petition was outside the scope of We the People." Can't really argue with that I guess.
Who exactly do you think will be importing from whom?
Might be interesting BillJ, instead of States succeeding, if individual countries could have that option.
Looks like the folks in Blue America would be importing most of their food from a "foreign nation that sits right next door."
Can anyone say Republic of Singapore, part two?Alabama as a nation? Can anyone say Chechnya part II?
Al Gore, 2000 election?
Dang some parts of America are stil quite empty aren't they? Or maye some parts of America just don't vote!
Cool map. It's fun to play guess the city based on the concentration of voters you see there.
A lot of places are pretty empty. You ever drive through Wyoming or Montana or places like that? The guy that makes the 'No Services 100 Miles' signs must have made a fortune there.
Yeah, it's a huge country.
An area of many square miles with fewer than 100 voters sounds pretty "empty" to me.
I'm neither Klingon nor American, it's not for me to vote on.It's sad that the petition still only has 1 vote.
Then go vote for it. The Klingon Empire needs your support! Plus, it doesn't get made public until it gets 150 votes so no one can see it on the site yet.
Look, you posted a map. That's cute.
Most of that red is pretty vacant real estate. The USA would probably import it's food from California and Iowa...much like we do know.
Where would this new "Confederation" import everything else from? You'd lose all your network television and sports leagues (with those franchises leaving the new country). You'd have no manufacturing base...but hey...you'd have a lot of corn! Houston would lose NASA and the Western states would go broke because they'd have to buy all the federal land within their borders.
So far, sounds good to me!
I've driven through Western Kansas, I can vouch for the fact there is nothing and nobody out there! Most of those counties through Western Kansas that are red? Probably represent fewer than 100 people.
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