RobertScorpio
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LOST vs Voyager
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Robert, can you start a LOST vs. THE INCREDIBLE MR. LIMPETT thread?
BTW, Alien Nation: the Series. It wasn't perfect, but it was damn near close.
SP is like 12 years old.
Well, it pretty much seemed wasted to me by the end of the first episode, so I gave up on it. So watching the finale wasn't as big a disappointment for me since I already thought the show was crap.
BTW, Alien Nation: the Series. It wasn't perfect, but it was damn near close.
RobertScorpio
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As per my self embargo, I will not start any new threads until September 27....
But I was going to start a LOST vs DS9 thread, until my embargo started. If someone wants to start such a poll, please do. The only STAR TREK holding its own with LOST has been TNG...DS9 and TOS have yet to issue the challenge
Rob
But I was going to start a LOST vs DS9 thread, until my embargo started. If someone wants to start such a poll, please do. The only STAR TREK holding its own with LOST has been TNG...DS9 and TOS have yet to issue the challenge
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Why isn't there a Lost vs DS9 thread I wonder? That one would actually produce some debates I think. I have many problems with LOST but the idea that Voyager or Enterprise, the two most gutless ST shows ever, might be better is... laughable. Like this: 
I think comparing LOST with DS9 would be hard for me.Why isn't there a Lost vs DS9 thread I wonder? That one would actually produce some debates I think. I have many problems with LOST but the idea that Voyager or Enterprise, the two most gutless ST shows ever, might be better is... laughable. Like this:
DS9's final season was much much better than LOST's final season. The Final Chapter had the tight serialization, epic storytelling with high stakes, the intriguing villians(Founder, Damar, Dukat, Winn) that LOST didn't in its final season. "What You Leave Behind" was flawed but felt far more like a fitting ending and a series finale with the right mix of things especially emotional sendoffs that was noteably absent from LOST.
I also found I had more of a connection with the DS9 characters than I did with the LOST characters. A lot of times beyond season one the LOST characters felt like chess pieces being used by the writers. DS9 I felt took more time with their characters and had more depth to their character scenes.
DS9 got so much better when it stopped with the standalones and embraced a serialized arc. However, it was nowhere near serialized enough for me and so in that regard LOST wins hands down. It was mostly all mythology all the time and it helped contribute to a multi-year stretch of nothing but good to great to excellent episodes starting with "Not in Portland" in season 3 and not ending until season six with "What Kate Does". LOST was the most consistent series I have ever watched. DS9 was good but sometimes all over the map in terms of quality or direction. DS9 did have one of the all time greatest season finales in tv history with "Call to Arms" but LOST had "Theres No Place Like Home", "Exodus", "The Incident" and the season 3 finale whose name escapes me.
Both definitely shared the ability to stun the audience and wasn't afraid of shaking up the status quo with surprising twists and turns.
At the end of the day I'd probably give the slight lead to LOST though.
DS9 wasn't much of an arc. There was virtually no planning for nearly the entire seven year run. Remember when we found out Bashir had been replaced by a Founder, and that the Bashir we saw in the last few episodes was actually a Changeling? The writers didn't even know it until they actually wrote that episode.
The only DS9 episodes I ever want to see again are "Emissary" (finest of all the Trek spinoff pilot episodes), "Trials and Tribble-ations," and "In the Pale Moonlight."
The only DS9 episodes I ever want to see again are "Emissary" (finest of all the Trek spinoff pilot episodes), "Trials and Tribble-ations," and "In the Pale Moonlight."
Totally opposite shows. LOST wins as far as I am concerned.
*Has an evil laugh about something*
*Has an evil laugh about something*
Really?! I've always felt a slight disconnect with any of the Trek characters, including DS9. None of them ever really felt like they were 100% real characters to me. They were always just a little too distant, a little too restrained. Lost, on the other hand, was all about the characters. Especially if you look at the first three or four seasons, it's essentially a character study with a little mystery thrown in.
I'd argue that season one was the only real full blown character-driven season and where the flashbacks were the least bit interesting. S2 for me was a mess both mythologically and character-wise. S3 got itself together and managed to balance mythology and character better and the flashbacks centering on the new characters that year-Juliet, Ben--were good--the ones on the regulars were tired. S4 and S5 to me were pure plot/mythology and the most entertaining for me as a viewer.
For me the LOST characters were either plot devices--which didn't bother me since they served that purpose very well-- or when they were actual characters they were treated as a character study and that certainly didn't help me connect with them. If I want a character study I'll take a course on Shakespeare's literary works, I don't want to treat characters on a tv show as a specimen being studied by a viewer to be treated in a cold analytical way. BSG was bad about that as well. It was what put up a barrier between me and the characters. I just prefer to see the characters as people and not as something to be treated as a subject.
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