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You'd just have a thousand more zodiacs to play with.
Zodiacs is just aspecific name for constellations on the ecliptic of our solar system (generally not recognizing a thirteenth one because people didn’t like that it wouldn’t fit a twelve month calendar system.)
 
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Orville did an episode about astrology.

Oh shoot. I have to pay a tithe to the coin jar now, don't I?
Nah, that's a fair reference (i.e., not referencing the show as if it were Trek).

I'd love to see how The Orville was developed, what character ideas were like when the idea was first dreamed up. Creating a new universe would've had boundless possibilities--not that I don't love the characters, they're all great in their own way!
Now this one might qualify.
 
I'd love to see how The Orville was developed, what character ideas were like when the idea was first dreamed up. Creating a new universe would've had boundless possibilities--not that I don't love the characters, they're all great in their own way!

Step 1: Obtain a copy of the TNG Writer's Bible
Step 2: Ctrl+F, Find and replace all
 
Of course it's entirely possible to believe in some semi-mystic ideas in the 24th century- take the spirit guide stuff from Chakotay , or the idea that the consciousness can be detached from the body - of course it helps that in the Trek universe there seems to actually be hard evidence for this idea (Cathexis). Coda shows us that there is still room for speculation about the afterlife. And so on. In fact I'd say there is a resurgence of such ideas in DS9 and VOY when compared to TNG.

But astrology in my eyes would seem particularly hard to defend, since (what I understand of it, which is admittedly not too much) it seems entirely based on how star constellations appear here on earth and on our local solar system, so I was curious how 24th century believers would explain that away when they can just go to another star system or interstellar space-- unless perhaps they would explicitly ascribe to the idea that all these "cosmic" astrological effects are just localised to the planet (or perhaps solar system) they are on.

Then again, people in our time also keep believing in certain 'alternative' ideas when science has already accumulated lots of direct or circumstantial evidence against and very little in support of those….
 
Because we already know today that it's complete nonsense?
You understand that your use of "we" doesn't include all people.
It's almost impossible to believe that in the advanced, scientific future of 400 years from now, people would have regressed so far as to believe something so obviously ridiculous.
This implies that belief in astrology would be something that needs to return, as opposed to something that persists into the future.
 
My favorite Lost character was Bernard, with Locke as a close second. And Horace Goodspeed, but that goes without saying.
 
That wouldn't be so different than being advised to seek a new job, change cities, dump a bad lover, etc..Deanna Troi believes in fate, Tuvok's wife believes in the power of prayer, Riker (?) believes in destiny. Why not astrology?
Because believing that your fate is determined by the positions of the stars and planets relative to a singular location is even more stupid than it is today when dealing with a society where you can be on a completely different world with different planets in the sky and different stars and constellations by the end of the day.

I mean, sure, there could certainly be some crazy luddite who ignores all technological and scientific developments and never leaves their home on one planet, but the idea that astrology is going to have any kind of presence among regularly spacefaring people is absurd.
 
I'd love to see how The Orville was developed, what character ideas were like when the idea was first dreamed up. Creating a new universe would've had boundless possibilities--not that I don't love the characters, they're all great in their own way!

Considering Seth pitched a revival of Star Trek in 2011, my guess is his original character concepts were supposed to reside in the Trekverse.
 
Of course it's entirely possible to believe in some semi-mystic ideas in the 24th century- take the spirit guide stuff from Chakotay , or the idea that the consciousness can be detached from the body - of course it helps that in the Trek universe there seems to actually be hard evidence for this idea (Cathexis). Coda shows us that there is still room for speculation about the afterlife. And so on. In fact I'd say there is a resurgence of such ideas in DS9 and VOY when compared to TNG.

But astrology in my eyes would seem particularly hard to defend, since (what I understand of it, which is admittedly not too much) it seems entirely based on how star constellations appear here on earth and on our local solar system, so I was curious how 24th century believers would explain that away when they can just go to another star system or interstellar space-- unless perhaps they would explicitly ascribe to the idea that all these "cosmic" astrological effects are just localised to the planet (or perhaps solar system) they are on.

Then again, people in our time also keep believing in certain 'alternative' ideas when science has already accumulated lots of direct or circumstantial evidence against and very little in support of those….

Because believing that your fate is determined by the positions of the stars and planets relative to a singular location is even more stupid than it is today when dealing with a society where you can be on a completely different world with different planets in the sky and different stars and constellations by the end of the day.

I mean, sure, there could certainly be some crazy luddite who ignores all technological and scientific developments and never leaves their home on one planet, but the idea that astrology is going to have any kind of presence among regularly spacefaring people is absurd.

"Your horoscope will be determined by what planet you're on because the minute gravitational affects of the stars, planets, and moons in your location will effect you and the things around you. By understanding these effects we can predict what will happen in your life to a high degree of accuracy. Buy our new astrological catalogue containing localized horoscopes for over 1000 planets! Now for only $99.99"

There will still be horoscopes in the future. In fact, with an increase in population there may be even MORE people who believe in horoscopes than there are now.
 
They may come up with some metaphysical notion that the quantum fabric of the universe is so interwoven and interconnected that if you tug on a thread at one end of the galaxy, it ends up affecting people's lives in another quadrant. No doubt they will come up with some fancy PADD apps that account for your exact position in relation to the stars in question. Certain members of Starfleet, the de facto space navy, might not mind spending a few of their hard-earned Federation credits on this.

Kor
 
There will be something at least equally silly as horoscopes in any world where schools do not stress critical thinking skills and skepticism, and the journalist culture focuses more on emotions than facts.

Not necessarily horoscopes as we understand them though. Maybe something based on measuring the magnetic activity of stars or something. Or a movement that cosmic background radiation is God speaking to us. So many options to make up exploitative mystical stuff.
 
Actually, the cosmic background radiation being spirits talking thing. Did I just come up with a way for horrible people to make millions? Crap.
 
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