Spoilers Lord of the Rings TV series

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Some things had to go, or it would have been much more of an overstuffed pudding. Arya did the revenging instead of Lady Stoneheart, but Arya's hard-won new abilities were underused after that. I think the later seasons of GoT could have done with having ten episodes. Everything seemed ill-thought-out, chaotic and rushed at the end - just as though the showrunners were eager to be off and do other things.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I have a friend who never watched the Peter Jackson movies beyond The Fellowship of the Ring because of the exclusion of Tom Bombadil.

 

[fireproof78]

I have a friend who never watched the Peter Jackson movies beyond The Fellowship of the Ring because of the exclusion of Tom Bombadil.

I still have a issue with the lack of Glorfindel but that won't keep me from enjoying the films. There are certain levels of a breaking point for me in an adaptation. The exclusion of characters or creation of new ones is usually not one of them.

 

[FPAlpha]

Some things had to go, or it would have been much more of an overstuffed pudding. Arya did the revenging instead of Lady Stoneheart, but Arya's hard-won new abilities were underused after that. I think the later seasons of GoT could have done with having ten episodes. Everything seemed, ill-thought-out, chaotic and rushed at the end - just as though the showrunners were eager to be off and do other things.

That's my assumption as well and i can understand it given the scope of the show after a few seasons with a huge crew spread out over several countries - that must have been completely exhausting.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

There is a Russian version of The Fellowship of the Ring that includes Tom Bombadil and Goldberry. No Glorfindel though AFAIK. I've never seen it though and I'm not in any hurry to.

Khraniteli - Wikipedia

 

[Disposable_Ensign]

There is a Russian version of The Fellowship of the Ring that includes Tom Bombadil and Goldberry. No Glorfindel though AFAIK. I've never seen it though and I'm not in any hurry to.

Khraniteli - Wikipedia

The Hobbits were filmed in front of a green screen and then digitally shrunk to ridiculous levels.

 

[Disposable_Ensign]

He was also in several radio plays.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I'm intrigued by the Russian novel The Last Ringbearer, which is based on the premise that Tolkien's account is revisionist history written by the victors. Now if Amazon had adapted that, it would have really put the cat among the pigeons.

The Last Ringbearer - Wikipedia

 

[crookeddy]

There is a Russian version of The Fellowship of the Ring that includes Tom Bombadil and Goldberry. No Glorfindel though AFAIK. I've never seen it though and I'm not in any hurry to.

Khraniteli - Wikipedia

Its really really terrible. You MUST see it. Wonderful experience for people who want to see a movie and say "WTF"??

 

[wayoung]

IMO, instead of Lady Stoneheart, I think GOT ran off the rails when TPTB decided to not have Aegon (number-whatever, IV?) show up.

But, YMMV, of course.

Cheers,
-CM-

Aegon - is that the one...

Spoiler: Aegon

who ends up being utterly pointless filler in an already bloated book series and is burned to death by dragons?

 

[Colonel Midnight]

Aegon - is that the one...

Spoiler: Aegon

who ends up being utterly pointless filler in an already bloated book series and is burned to death by dragons?

No, that was the guy from Dorne in your Spoiler. He was pretty pointless, I agree.

Cheers,
-CM-

 

[EmoBorg]

I'm intrigued by the Russian novel The Last Ringbearer, which is based on the premise that Tolkien's account is revisionist history written by the victors. Now if Amazon had adapted that, it would have really put the cat among the pigeons.

The Last Ringbearer - Wikipedia

I have heard about it. The Tolkien Estate is firmly against the book because it is not licensed by them. But i personally like the idea of seeing the conflict from the other side. That is why i liked the character of Ardar in this show. He is an elf that fought for the other side.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I have heard about it. The Tolkien Estate is firmly against the book because it is not licensed by them. But i personally like the idea of seeing the conflict from the other side. That is why i liked the character of Ardar in this show. He is an elf that fought for the other side.

Much of season two will likely be about how Halbrand disposes of Adar, possibly with the help of Isildur, who, of course, has not the slightest clue who Halbrand really is.

One of the showrunners has also said that another plot thread will be Elrond discovering the truth about Galadriel unwittingly aiding the entity, whom she swore to destroy. We're also going to encounter Círdan the Shipwright, possibly the oldest Elf in Middle-earth and bearer of the ring of fire, Narya, which he later gives to Gandalf. Galadriel should be given the ring of water, Nenya, while the ring of air, Vilya, should go to Gil-galad, who will later bestow it upon Elrond. In the lore, Gil-galad originally wields both Narya and Vilya, which won't work within the logic presented in episode eight that three separate Elves should bear one of the rings. As to why Galadriel should receive Nenya, given her behaviour, I can't guess.

Ironically, this show has it that the only way any of the Elves can remain in Middle-earth is thanks to Sauron teaching Celebrimbor how to craft mithril.

 

[The Knappos]

As to why Galadriel should receive Nenya, given her behaviour, I can't guess.

Because it's apt, given her big swim and she fell in the river?

 

[plynch]

I am not a LOTR fan, but watched this with my wife. It was ok. I pretty much liked it. Ep 6, the big battle was way too much of that, but whatever.

I read the Guardian article. It strikes me as trying to sound too cool, with its references to things. I have a friend like that. I freely admit you know more than I, but you're not helping me understand what you think.

A bunch of acting was bad, but it doesn't say who. Or how. Just that it was sherry-breathed community theater level. Nicely done. The faux-Irish folk are OTT, but I wouldn't call it bad acting. Kinda remind me of the Scots in Brigadoon.

I don't particularly like the stilted-portentious dialog that is the coin of the realm in these things, but that's me. "Sometimes the perilous way is the only road ahead," kind of bs, you know. Every thing has its vibe.

The lighting was bad? Seemed fine to me. Again, some examples would be a slight help. The fx were also bad. Which? How? They seemed amazing to me. (I am not really into fx though.) These are all comments I would have left on a student paper years ago -- you're making assertions that I as an unknowing reader can't accept without that vaunted thing called "support."

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

Asking a critic to show their working is a bit of a waste of time. They're usually more interested at making what they think are humourous or witty remarks. It's another form of entertainment so really there ought to be critics who critique other critics in a vast, wobbly pile of pretentious exhibitionism.

 

[Orphalesion]

I think the later seasons of GoT could have done with having ten episodes. Everything seemed ill-thought-out, chaotic and rushed at the end - just as though the showrunners were eager to be off and do other things.

Which was kinda doubly weird because at some points in Seasons 3 and 4 it felt like nothing was happening at all except people walking through the betrayal garden.

 

[Asbo Zaprudder]

I suppose not including Lady Stoneheart allowed the dish of revenge to be served colder - even if it included a meat pie.

 

[eschaton]

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As usual, I agree with Daniel Greene's take.

 

[Jedman67]

I enjoyed ROP greatly, although I have a really hard time separating the "lore" from the show and it's giving me a headache lol.
Strip out everything we know about the Second Age and it's fantastic.