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Spoilers Lord of the Rings TV series

Just because he's still old doesn't mean it will work. Look at Gandalf in the original trilogy. Look at McKellen today. The difference is more marked than Hugh Jackman between X1 and Logan. If you're where going to do a Logan style story were Gandalf actually can age a bit, you could get away with it, but people here are talking about a prequel, not a sequel, and if anyone were talking about a sequel, they'd probably be run out of town on a rail for heresey.
But again, Gandalf is already suppose to look old so it won't stand out like if Hugh Jackman did a prequel for Wolverine now. Under all of that make-up, prosthetics (the nose is entirely fake), and costume, the only things that are distinctively McKellen are his eyes and voice. His voice certainly hasn't changed that much in the last 20 years. I still don't see any problem with him reprising the role.

Not quite. Children of Hurin was put into novel form, Beren and Luthien wasn't. The recently released "Beren and Luthien" is NOT a novel version of the tale as "Children of Hurin" was. It's nothing more than all of the previously printed versions of the tale gathered into one book. Christopher has said that the story was not as fleshed out as CoH was and could not be presented in novel form.
Ah, I stand corrected on that count. I haven't actually read either of them yet, so thank you for the information.
 
I would hazard a guess that this series, if filmed outside of the UK, particularly if in somewhere like New Zealand, might prove too great a commitment for McKellen at his age.
 
Maybe, but he's only 78 and he loves New Zealand. Granted his work production is lower these days (aside from theater), but I haven't seen any indication that his health has declined by any measure. Of course, I could be wrong, but my general impression is that if the production wanted him and he was willing to reprise the role (which isn't a guarantee), he would be able to perform the role.
 
Not quite. Children of Hurin was put into novel form, Beren and Luthien wasn't. The recently released "Beren and Luthien" is NOT a novel version of the tale as "Children of Hurin" was. It's nothing more than all of the previously printed versions of the tale gathered into one book. Christopher has said that the story was not as fleshed out as CoH was and could not be presented in novel form.

I wasn't sure how Beren and Luthien was going to be presented before it was published. I'm not unhappy with it at all, but it's a book that would be off-putting to the casual reader, imho. But I don't think any of the recent books (those since Hurin) are really intended for the casual reader.

I would love a standalone Gondolin book, but the most complete version of that story was written as part of The Book of Lost Tales a century ago.
 
“We are delighted that Amazon, with its longstanding commitment to literature, is the home of the first-ever multi-season television series for ‘The Lord of the Rings,'” added Matt Galsor, a representative for the Tolkien Estate and Trust and HarperCollins.
Multi-season? I wonder if that means Amazon already picked it up for more than one season, or if that is just their way of saying it's not a miniseries?
If they are going for 1 book = 1 season, I hope they take a Game Of Thrones approach to story telling (without the sex and violence of course).
OTOH, none of the books really lend themselves to TV, so a lot of creative rewriting is going to be needed to bring it to life. I also hope they take a different direction than the New Line films, kind of update the "real-world" a bit.
It's going to be a new, possibly original, story, not another adaptation of the LOTR books.
 
What would it take to get Zack Snyder to direct this?

A director whose work I do not like busy for the next few years on a franchise that literally has put me to sleep. It would keep him away from subjects I have an interest in. Do online petitions ever work? :devil:;)
 
What would it take to get Zack Snyder to direct this?

A director whose work I do not like busy for the next few years on a franchise that literally has put me to sleep. It would keep him away from subjects I have an interest in. Do online petitions ever work? :devil:;)
The only thing that would make me angrier is if Michael Bay directed this! :scream:
 
I wasn't sure how Beren and Luthien was going to be presented before it was published. I'm not unhappy with it at all, but it's a book that would be off-putting to the casual reader, imho. But I don't think any of the recent books (those since Hurin) are really intended for the casual reader.

I would love a standalone Gondolin book, but the most complete version of that story was written as part of The Book of Lost Tales a century ago.

I have to say that I was disappointed that it wasn't a novelization like CoH as I was really excited for it. For whatever reason, a few years ago I finally "got" Tolkien and have since become a true fan of the work, especially The Silmarillion, my favorite Middle Earth book. One of the things that sort of bothered me was the dearth of Middle Earth books, and I had hoped, as I became more familiar with the Legendarium, that we'd get "Beren and Luthien" and "The Fall Of Gondolin" in novel form. I really wanted Christopher to do this, but he seems to have been really reluctant to really add anything to the mythos himself.

I know he took a "beating" on The Silmarillion (don't know all the details, but I'm sure there was something that wasn't lining up, though how the fans would know I don't know) and so it seemed like he contented himself to publishing the more scholarly "History of Middle-Earth" instead of attempting to complete his father's primary tales of the First Age. Now, I'm sure he feared another backlash, but I think the fandom isn't the same as it was in the 60's-80's because so much more time has passed, and so many more fantasy works exists now. Plus I think fandom would be more accepting of Christopher's own contributions when it comes to trying to craft a single tale out of various tales, like he did with CoH.

Maybe he felt like he didn't know what his father's final intentions were and didn't want to be bold enough to assume he knew. But JRR didn't know what his final intentions were, and Christopher is probably the next best person in the world to take a guess. Plus he could've simple stated something to the effect in a "forward" and say that the "canonicity" of the tale is nebulous because of this. Or something. Brian Herbert doesn't seem to have that problem. LOL. I always wondered if, in addition to his own probably needless fears over fan outrage, he was concerned with LotR becoming, not the central work, but simply one chapter in a larger series.

So now I wonder if we might get novels of "Beren and Luthien" and "The Fall Of Gondolin", and the best we can hope is that they are done by some author who has a love for the material and who can craft the best possible tale after fastidious study of the works. "The Fall Of Gondolin" would be the easier of the two I should think as I've run across one guy who said he did just this decades back, and I believe a friend of JRR also did this decades back. "Beren and Luthien" would be the more difficult due to a lack of sufficient detail to make it novel length, though I think some creative soul could pull it off. Again, I wish that it would've been Christopher.

The downside to this is that we might find ourselves in a Star Wars situation. For me, all I ever wanted was the nine movies. That's it. Nine movies about three generations of Skywalkers. Didn't care about "extended universes" because 'The Saga" just becomes one small chapter in an otherwise larger series, as we're about to start seeing as Disney runs Star Wars into the ground. Likewise, it would be weird if the Tolkien estate authorizes new works set in the world of Middle-Earth by big name writers...I wonder who would jump at the chance and who would refuse....because we would be at that same point we now are with Star Wars. An increase in new Middle-Earth works decreases the prominence of LotR, and makes it just one more chapter in a huge sprawling series. Well, the endpoint anyway.
 
I would hazard a guess that this series, if filmed outside of the UK, particularly if in somewhere like New Zealand, might prove too great a commitment for McKellen at his age.
Christopher Lee was filmed in the UK and digitally inserted into The Hobbit. For the relatively few appearances Gandalf would make in a TV show (he's not likely to be a series regular) that approach would work.
 
Christopher Tolkien’s resignation as director of the Tolkien Estate means that we will see more Middle-Earth TV/film content and adaptations in the following years.

If you start an online petition why don’t you ask for something useful? Like have Amazon & WB hire Guillermo del Toro to develop the project(s).
 
The TV show could also utilise the other 'unseen' wizards (two blue ones if I recall correctly).

With regards to the literary property, Christopher always took a scholarly and editorial approach being extremely reluctant to contribute creatively or put anything of himself into the works.

I have no real objection should the estate chose a suitable person to produce some 'finished versions' from several partial drafts, even if some new writing is required.

I do, however, have major reservations regarding the production of 'all new' material, and would limit that to the inevitable tie-ins with the TV series. That stuff would already be 'out there' anyway.
 
I'd add to my earlier posts about new literary material and TV tie-ins my take on the Star Wars EU, which I followed from Splinter of the Mind's Eye and the early Han and Lando novels through the Zahn relaunch and the ever more regular releases until I eventually gave up (some time after my interest waned) during the Vong war.

A novel or two per year with tight quality control is miles away from a couple every month...
 
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