Looking for quotes/excerpts: progress made in the Federation/Earth?

[fireproof78]

"No" what? You're taking a drop in the bucket and comparing it to the bucket. Vulcans were a focal point in Enterprise. A single example (an individual) in a series can be excused as an aberration, but for them - a species - to regularly come off as acidic in another series is unmistakable. So much for "Live long and prosper." and "Infinite diversity in infinite combinations.".

I'm saying it's not new. They have long been shown to be intolerant. IDIC is s beautiful catch phrase. But, just like with humans, that ideal rarely lived up to. It's not just T'Pau, who was regarded as a well known official, but also Sarek, and Solluk in DS9. It's a pattern.

 

[The Wormhole]

Yeah, for having such a progressive sounding motto, Vulcans are surprisingly insular and provincial. Always have been. The ones we see as main characters on the show like Spock, Tuvok or T'Pol are the outliers.

 

[Ragitsu]

The wet blanket Vulcans were the perfect foil for the individualistic and driven Americ...excuse me, Humans.

Yeah, for having such a progressive sounding motto, Vulcans are surprisingly insular and provincial. Always have been. The ones we see as main characters on the show like Spock, Tuvok or T'Pol are the outliers.

Not to the degree in Enterprise, they weren't.

 

[fireproof78]

Yeah, for having such a progressive sounding motto, Vulcans are surprisingly insular and provincial. Always have been. The ones we see as main characters on the show like Spock, Tuvok or T'Pol are the outliers.

Indeed. Enterprise just explored it more thoroughly.

 

[Ragitsu]

By the way, are there any clear references to standards of living on other Federation worlds (e.g., Vulcan, Andor or Tellar)? I always assumed that if you were a member of the Federation, your world has:

1. Warp drive (a given, considering it is a bare minimum requirement of first contact).
2. Abundant energy: plenty of fusion reactors and matter-antimatter engines.
3. Matter replicators.
4. Transporters.

Therefore, a human visiting Andor wouldn't have to worry about lodging and sustenance.

Anyone want to tackle this?

 

[Ragitsu]

"Clear" ?

Ambiguity about most things is Trek's middle name.

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[fireproof78]

"Clear" ?

Ambiguity about most things is Trek's middle name.

Indeed.

 

[Ragitsu]

DATA: Perhaps, for humans, old things represent a tie to the past.
SOONG: What's so important about the past? People got sick, they needed money. Why tie yourself to that?

A jab at privatized healthcare?

PARIS: Smoking is a bad habit. My species gave it up centuries ago when we finally got it into our heads it was killing us.