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Lexington 71XX1

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The TNG-era starship(s) USS Lexington are referenced a handful of times.

1. mid-2365: "The Measure of a Man" TNG2 SB173-SDS chart, registry NCC-30405
2. mid-2370: verbal reference to rendezvous with Enterprise 1701-D in "Thine Own Self"[TNG7]
3. late-2371: docked at DS9 ("Explorers"[DSN3]), Nebula Class, registry not visible (re-use of USS Prometheus)
4. late-2373: verbal reference, casualty report from Battle of Sector 001 (ST:FC)

The Starbase 173 display from "Measure of a Man"[TNG2] suggested a Lexington 30405 in mid-2365. Then "Explorers"[DSN3] showed a Nebula Class Lexington in late 2371 that was considered a plum assignment a couple of years prior (2369), as might be the case for a newer ship, and a newer ship was shown. (It was scripted to be a Galaxy Class ship but ended up as a re-use of the shot of the Nebula Class USS Prometheus, NCC-71201.)

As of that moment, there was no contradiction. Lexington 30405 existed in mid-2365 and a new Lexington existed in 2369.

So, the worst thing that could happen at this point is if someone like Okuda tried to give the new Lexington a weirdly low registry. And indeed, Okuda decided to give the ship the registry of NCC-61832 for the Encyclopedia.

Well, dammit.

Chronological registries are a thing, and 61832, being around 10,000 less than the Galaxy Class ships like the Lexington ought to have been, is way too low for a new vessel. That would likely be a ship of the early 2350s.

Okuda's Nebula-Lexington registry, if accepted, is so old that it must overwrite 30405, as it would be a vessel at least several years old as of 2365. That also seems at least a little contrary to the ship being a plum assignment, though that part's not insurmountable.

The alternative is to reject Okuda's backstage Nebula-Lexington registry as an unnecessary contradiction or overwrite. There are two ways to do this. One is to just go with 30405 and slap it on a Nebula. That's stupid and no one would ever do that. Another alternative is to presume that there's a higher Nebula-Lexington registry.

There's support for the latter. A little bit of brightness on one of the docked ship shots makes it obvious that the Lexington's lower saucer registry is something that starts with a 7.

DSN3-Explorers-Lexington71XX1.jpg


Of course, we know it says 71201 due to Prometheus 71201 shots from the other episode, but this shot is sketchy enough to leave wiggle room ... 71XX1 is easy enough to argue for, but one must be cautious here because 71XX1 could cause its own problems. 71807 is the Yamato, and while she was only ever seen in 2365 there was evidence of her being in space for about the same amount of time as the Enterprise-D, observed throughout 2364. It's very tight to squeeze in any 71XXX registry toward the tail of 2365, and very dependent on exact sequencing.

(I'm currently working on registry progression analysis and there's at least one of the multiple current versions where, for example, 719X1 isn't impossible to fit in 2365 . . . one version features 2365 as 71842-72210, which even leaves 71891, for instance. However, more than one version doesn't allow that, so mileage may vary by the time I'm done.)
 
I'd argue that even so, it doesn't mean that all registries must be.

Exceptions exist, but, at least during earlier productions, we could typically identify them and could at least infer why they existed.

In this case, it seems 30405 was either forgotten or intentionally overwritten, but this produced an unnecessary contradiction . . . two of them, in fact, due to the fact that 30405 and 7-whatever are both visible. And, hell, I haven't even brought up Lexington 14427.
 
Maybe there are two ships.

U.S.S. LEXINGTON (With an uppercase i and o) and a
U.S.S. LEXlNGT0N (with a lowercase L and and zero).

You can't prove there isn't! ;)
 
Someone took another pass at the chart from The Measure Of A Man, where they deduced the Lexington's registry was NCC-50425.
 
I think i had a gif somewhere that I overlapped the recreation to the aspect fixed MoM. I can tell you its definitely not 30405 but with Picard supposedly using that number I'm hesitant to change it. If its in the 3x its 30425 but again I think its 50425.
 
1. Here's one of your things.


Also: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/starship-deploy-status-review.314656/

See also: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/ships-in-the-measure-of-a-man.196105/page-2#post-7391440

2. I started but didn't have time to finish yet an experiment with the font that Okuda reportedly used and some blurring to simulate a camera out of focus. This image isn't great because I tried to straighten everything first, but we'll just call it a teaser:

TNG2-MeasureofaMan-SB173-SDS-Experiment1.jpg
 
1. Here's one of your things.


Also: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/starship-deploy-status-review.314656/

See also: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/ships-in-the-measure-of-a-man.196105/page-2#post-7391440

2. I started but didn't have time to finish yet an experiment with the font that Okuda reportedly used and some blurring to simulate a camera out of focus. This image isn't great because I tried to straighten everything first, but we'll just call it a teaser:

TNG2-MeasureofaMan-SB173-SDS-Experiment1.jpg
I think the font if you didn't know should be Compacta Light. But this is a great idea. I have been working on a SVG version that I can replicate this with as well. I will do some testing and see if I can replicate the results to yours as well.
 
Also, I think the Laser might be the Emden. Laser is slightly to short. But with your idea I'll see what one matches up.
 
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Yeah, I wasn't feeling Laser or Amber. Emden is a good idea since he's used it elsewhere, and I'd wager it will be the best fit.

Compacta was very early TNG and Helvetica UltraCompressed later TNG . . . this may indeed be Compacta, because a quick comparison of online samples shows it to be tighter and less readable than even the UltraCompressed one. Yikes.

(In my headcanon, that's an intentional effort to prevent threat forces from too-easily reading over the shoulder or something.)
 
I would not try putting the text right on top of the existing blur as it just overwrites.

What makes me think its a 5 and not a 3

I have no idea . . . the first digit doesn't hit me as a 5 at all. I think the distinction is that I am looking at where the left hand gap is. It is lower on a five.

That said, I'm negotiable on the 4th digit being non-zero.
 
Obviously I was referring to the first picture where text was overlaid on top of the existing source text, which is blurred.

Anyway, I experimented further with another shot of it over Maddox's shoulder toward the end, just as a clean slate. I also wasn't entirely satisfied with the Gaussian blur only, so ended up adding in a little "median blur" thereafter in Paint.Net to better smudge it all up.

The names and registries are as per the text list at the Memory Alpha link I posted, though I did use "Emden" and think it's pretty solid.

Excalibur 21534 really looks like it should start 27 in this shot, but otherwise I haven't analyzed much. Apollo may as well be NCC-50000 in this view.

TNG2-MeasureofaMan-SB173-SDSMaddox-Experiment1.jpg
 
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