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Let's pray for Jaycee Dugard to get better and find happiness!

Jayson

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I'm usually not big on the idea of asking people to do this. To me prayer is a private thing. Also alot of people don't beleive in God or religion. I myself have a lukewarm belief in God and zero belief in religion.

Just once though I thought it would be nice if we could all remove our doubts and have a little hope that there might really be a loving God out there, that cares about us. Not asking for faith, because I don't beleive faith is possible but we can have some hope can't we? Just 10 to 20 seconds of hope or to be more exact 10 or 20 seconds were we can try and have hope? I know it's impossible to fully remove doubt but I would like to try.

This case has really bothered me. I mean it's bothered everyone but for me it's sort of agiated my OCD. I actually feel guilty and sad that my life doesn't suck as much as what she has gone through. It's stuff like this which always makes reading a newspapers a emotional adventure for me. I would like to try and do something postive about it.

When you pray just sign the thread. You can do it as much as you want as long as you want. The thread won't have much discussion beyond sending goodwill into the atmosphere, which sounds stupid but I don't care. I still want to try it.


Jason
 
For what it's worth, I'll add my good wishes for Jaycee and her children.
 
God didn't do much for her over the last 20 years.

Not sure why he'd start now.

No prayers from me.
 
The individual in question has my best wishes :). I have thought about her as I have every victim of lengthy abuse I have read about. I find your dedicating this thread to her to be a very moving idea. Thank you, Jayson. :)

However, I'm afraid I cannot pray for her. I have no religious belief. Now, I understand what you say about faith not mattering, as I have indeed prayed once- just once- in a time of great distress. I did not believe in gods any more then than I did at any other time, but out of desperation I prayed. However, as part of that prayer I offered my life in return for the outcome I wanted (saving a large group of other people whose plight distressed me). You do not receive if you are not willing to give in return. It can never be one way. I therefore cannot pray for this individual as I am not prepared to sacrifice anything in return for what I am asking of the god (which I do not believe in, but many do).

Not to detract from your thread's topic, however, I will close by reaffirming my best wishes to this individual in her struggle to rebuild her life and find peace :). Again, this is a wonderful idea for a thread.
 
The individual in question has my best wishes :). I have thought about her as I have every victim of lengthy abuse I have read about. I find your dedicating this thread to her to be a very moving idea. Thank you, Jayson. :)

However, I'm afraid I cannot pray for her. I have no religious belief. Now, I understand what you say about faith not mattering, as I have indeed prayed once- just once- in a time of great distress. I did not believe in gods any more then than I did at any other time, but out of desperation I prayed. However, as part of that prayer I offered my life in return for the outcome I wanted (saving a large group of other people whose plight distressed me). You do not receive if you are not willing to give in return. It can never be one way. I therefore cannot pray for this individual as I am not prepared to sacrifice anything in return for what I am asking of the god (which I do not believe in, but many do).

Not to detract from your thread's topic, however, I will close by reaffirming my best wishes to this individual in her struggle to rebuild her life and find peace :). Again, this is a wonderful idea for a thread.

That's wierd about what you said about how you prayed and offered your life, because I do the samething when I pray. The way I see it I don't really have much value on earth. I don't have kids or a important job and I am fucked up in so many ways. If my life ending could do good, it would be worth it.

I know God proably won't answer the prayers and lets face it there is a good shot that God isn't real or if he is, he doesn't care. That's why I use the word hope. It's about taking a chance and hoping my doubts are wrong. Having some hope that if God is uncaring,maybe someday that will change.

It might be for nothing but you never know. People have been wrong before about things they were so certain about and I know I know I am wrong all the time about things. If I am wrong, so much then maybe my doubt in God is just another thing I am wrong about.

Jason
 
the hard work of one does more than the prayers of thousands.

The cops dropped the ball - big time. Where was god then?

Everything happens according to god's plan. An 11 y.o. girl is kidnapped and raped repeatedly. God is a sick mofo.
 
the hard work of one does more than the prayers of thousands.

The cops dropped the ball - big time. Where was god then?

Everything happens according to god's plan. An 11 y.o. girl is kidnapped and raped repeatedly. God is a sick mofo.

I don't know. Proably doesn't exsit or doesn't care or does have some plan where this stuff all makes sense. That is why I don't have a strong faith in God. i still though would like there to be God out there that can fix all our problems, when we die. I see no reason in hoping for this, even if it's a longshot. People play the loterry when they know there going to proably loose and people take all sorts of risks that they know have a good shot of not panning out. Why not spend 15 seconds hoping for something that makes life and all the crap in it, make sense?

Jason
 
the hard work of one does more than the prayers of thousands.

The cops dropped the ball - big time. Where was god then?

Everything happens according to god's plan. An 11 y.o. girl is kidnapped and raped repeatedly. God is a sick mofo.

I don't know. Proably doesn't exsit or doesn't care or does have some plan where this stuff all makes sense. That is why I don't have a strong faith in God. i still though would like there to be God out there that can fix all our problems, when we die. I see no reason in hoping for this, even if it's a longshot. People play the loterry when they know there going to proably loose and people take all sorts of risks that they know have a good shot of not panning out. Why not spend 15 seconds hoping for something that makes life and all the crap in it, make sense?

Jason

Again, this girl was held captive in a back yard for twenty years and abused in every way possible.

Before Sotckholm set-in, and probably even after, she probably begged, prayed, and pleaded with God everynight for her to be saved.

God said, "Nope, sorry, it's part of My Plan to have you used as a sex-slave to this nut-case for your entire adolescence and your twenties. So enjoy sleeping in that dirt-floor hut and pissing in a bucket because it's part of My Plan."

Sorry, don't buy it. God gets an "asshole card" for this one along with the multiple "You Suck at Your Job" cards I'm handing out to members of law enforcement and the "Neighborhood Watch, My Ass!" cards I'm handing out to the neighbors.
 
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the hard work of one does more than the prayers of thousands.

The cops dropped the ball - big time. Where was god then?

Everything happens according to god's plan. An 11 y.o. girl is kidnapped and raped repeatedly. God is a sick mofo.

I don't know. Proably doesn't exsit or doesn't care or does have some plan where this stuff all makes sense. That is why I don't have a strong faith in God. i still though would like there to be God out there that can fix all our problems, when we die. I see no reason in hoping for this, even if it's a longshot. People play the loterry when they know there going to proably loose and people take all sorts of risks that they know have a good shot of not panning out. Why not spend 15 seconds hoping for something that makes life and all the crap in it, make sense?

Jason

Again, this girl was held captive in a back yard for twenty years and abused in every way possible.

Before Sotckholm set-in, and probably even after, she probably begged, prayed, and pleaded with God everynight for her to be saved.

God said, "Nope, sorry, it's part of My Plan to have you used as a sex-slave to this nut-case for your entire adolescence and your twenties. So enjoy sleeping in that dirt-floor hut and pissing in a bucket because it's part of My Plan."

Sorry, don't buy it. God gets an "asshole card" for this one along with the multiple "You Suck at Your Job" cards I'm handing out to members of law enforcement and the "Neighborhood Watch, My Ass!" cards I'm handing out to the nieghbors.

well said
 
I understand what your saying, but I can think of reasons for God not to interfere. Society for example ends if God every becames a fact. Life won't be worth living if everyone is just waiting for death and their trip to heaven.

Plus if not interfereing equals evil, then does that mean it's evil for America to not go invade every country on this planet and try and solve their problems? As bad as it sounds, evil does have a purpose in this world, and it's to show us what goodness is.

At least that is what I hope. I really hope that God isn't the callous bastard he seems to be, asuming he is real. Also it's asuming that God is even sentient. If you believe in the living universe theory then I am not sure how that factors into things like good and evil.

Jason
 
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