Let's make a Marvel movie timeline!
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You're probably right. I tend to take things too literally sometimes.
Well he should be hitting his 60s in the comic.
Here you answered your own question. Spidey was having his battles with Sandman while the FF were running around chasing the Silver Surfer.
The big fight at the construction site occurred while the FF was out of the city.
There's a passage in my novel Spider-Man: Drowned in Thunder that addresses this issue. When Peter suspects that a crime was staged to lure Spidey into a trap and Mary Jane asks how he could know it was targeted at him when there are so many other heroes around, Peter replies:
So they all kinda have their own specialties, specific areas or categories that they concentrate on while trusting others to handle matters in their own respective bailiwicks. Though sometimes, of course, there is overlap. Indeed, in the early part of the novel, Spidey is rather embarrassed when he fails to prevent a crisis caused by Electro -- one of "his" villains -- from escalating to the point that the Avengers have to come in and stop it. (This was set shortly before he joined the Avengers.)
I figure it's because mutants are kind of a race. A mutant isn't "one of us" who's been changed, but someone who was born fundamentally different. By crude analogy, a racist who dislikes people born with brown skin would not extend it to white people who've gotten deep suntans, because that's not an innate difference. An arbitrary distinction, yes, but we're talking about racism here, so it's a given that it's illogical.
Moreover, superpowered individuals who gain their powers by freak accidents can be treated as isolated cases. But if evolution itself is producing a new race of superbeings, a genetic lineage with a distinct survival advantage over mainstream humanity, that's scary to ordinary people because it creates the very real possibility that they will one day be outcompeted and overwhelmed as a species. Of course, there's really no reason to assume that, because survival in modern civilization is not a cutthroat law-of-the-jungle affair, so superior fighting ability may not be as valuable a genetic survival trait as intelligence, social skill, or simple longevity and prolific breeding. But the idea of Homo superior as a race creates an existential fear that the occasional superpower-inducing freak accident would not.
The Opening scene of X-Men The Last stand where Professor X and Magneto visit a young Jean Grey for the first time has the caption that reads 'Twenty Years Ago'. When Professor X's Car pulls up to the house it had a NYS License Plate (Yellow with Blue lettering) that was in use between 1973-1986 after that the NYS plates style changed to the Statue of Liberty White with Blue lettering.
I guess I can understand that even if I do not agree. However I guess if it were in the timeline it would be pretty much first.I made the conscious decision to start at the beginning of the current comic movie fad, which I placed either in '98 with Blade or '00 with X-Men.
Where would people place the Spider-Man and Fantastic Four films in comparison to the new Avengers-related movies? My gut tells me SM and F4 should probably come well before, but that's probably just because the movies were made so long before.
On the other hand, with the advanced privatized aerospace technology shown in Fantastic 4, maybe it should be later in the timeline.
On the other hand, with the advanced privatized aerospace technology shown in Fantastic 4, maybe it should be later in the timeline.
I'd just as soon treat the FF films as apocryphal.
Well yes, they suck, but that's beside the point of the thread.
They're also going to be rebooted, aren't they? If they're starting a whole new FF film continuity, hopefully a better one, wouldn't it be better to wait until we can fold that into this conjectural timeline? (Although then we get into the question of how to handle the Raimi and reboot Spidey continuities.)
Yes, Spider-Man, Daredevil, and Fantastic Four seem to be all getting reboots. Also and forgive me because I've not been following this thread from the first post, this would be a disjointed timeline since there are multiple studios involved here. I think if one where to compose a Marvel Movie time line it would have to focus on the universe that the Marvel Studios films belong into. "Iron Man", "The Incredible Hulk", "Iron Man 2", "Thor", "Captain America: The First Avenger", and "The Avengers" would all be apart of that time line along with any subsequent sequels or spin offs. It would be difficult to include the Rami Spider-Man films along with the Fox "X-Men" and "Fantastic Four" films in this time line because they don't even exist in that universe.
As I said in the first post of the thread, it doesn't matter that officially the films are not in the same continuity. This is my fan project to see if we can reasonably fit them together into a coherent universe. FOR FUN!
Besides, even if heroes like Spidey and Daredevil don't officially exist in the Marvel Studios films, as long as it isn't explicitly stated that they don't exist, it's possible to imagine that they do.
Which brings up an interesting point. How do people know that Spider-Man was "changed" and not born with the powers? I mean, maybe after time, he gave his story to a reporter, but when he first arrived on the scene? Wouldn't people automatically assume he was a mutant?
They don't know either way.
While some might, there's no specific reason to believe he is one. There's no more pointing to him being a mutant than him being otherwise empowered. Keep in mind that superpowered mutants are just a subsection of the metahuman population. You also have those who are so due to extraterrestrial origin, scientific experimentation, exposure to excessive radiation, etc.
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I love timelines and I'm all about the fun but I just don't see how we can ostensibly merge the other studios films into the Marvel Studios films to create a single functional time line. Especially since the Fox, and Sony products seem to be their own universes unto themselves. I'm not saying that it is wrong to do this that it's difficult, especially when those other universes don't mention any heroes. I don't believe that they were planned or designed to have other heroes in them other than the movies they showed them in if that is understandable. If so then we would have had mention of them. That is what I think is so special about the Marvel Studios films is that they ARE building a functional movie universe with heroes in them.
No shit they weren't meant to be in the same universe. The whole point of this thread is "who gives a fuck, let's do it anyway." Here's a quote from my opening post:
So if that's all you have to say, then go away, you bore me.
^ You don't have to be aggressive about it and did YOU not see my post saying that I hadn't followed the thread from the first post! You obviously also missed the part where I stated that I had no problem joining the other film "universes" together just that I didn't think it would be manageable or coherent. No need to get nasty now...