Finally do Star Trek: Phase II the right way.
Spoilers Legacy character announced for SNW
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Finally do Star Trek: Phase II the right way.
There is nothing in canon that says when Kirk takes command. It could be 2260 in this universe, for all we know. In the Abramsverse it was 2258.
https://www.cinemablend.com/intervi...pike-will-exit-when-paul-wesleys-kirk-arrives
Anson assures us Kirk is not taking over the show.
Anson assures us Kirk is not taking over the show.
Alright, Mount, I hope you are right.
There may not be much of a Time Gap (if any) at all.
I don't think anyone much seriously thought Wesley/Kirk was being brought in to rush Mount off the stage. Did they?
No.
But Cinemablend, like some other sites, got a few scare headlines out of it.
That blogger thinks that when Kirk appears they should focus on "his time as a teacher at Starfleet," because "that would be an interesting period."
No, and no.
Anything and everything in Kirk's backstory can be changed with the "Delete" key on a computer.
No.
But Cinemablend, like some other sites, got a few scare headlines out of it.
That blogger thinks that when Kirk appears they should focus on "his time as a teacher at Starfleet," because "that would be an interesting period."
No, and no.
Anything and everything in Kirk's backstory can be changed with the "Delete" key on a computer.
I’m confused. I thought you were against changing the established lore. Felt that way with your DSC critiques.
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Well, you're sufficiently averse to criticism of the show that I don't think you read complaints carefully, which is understandable.
I don't doubt that on some occasions I've objected to a change from the previous which I thought was the substitution of something stupid. Certainly my complaints about the new Enterprise exterior design have probably cited things that I preferred about the older versions - but not because the old versions were established and must be paid obeisance to, but simply because I thought that in some instances they were better designs.
Still and all, my objections to the ship redesign have been that for the most part they were timid, overly familiar and trite.* I'm not entirely alone in that - there's a CG artist on the board who expressed disappointment in the redesign and felt they should have changed it more.
You can go through my remarks regarding the Abrams Trek movies - and please, don't think that I consider anything I post here notable enough that I really expect you or anyone else to bother poring over my maunderings - and I think you'd be hard-pressed to find evidence that I object to substantial changes in the "lore," or the visual designs that have been established in Trek.
I generally laud all that stuff, because I think Trek is weighed down and larded over with the baggage of some very old, fixed expectations.
Similarly, other than my complaints about that one visual element of SNW - and I'm making my peace with the Discoprise - I don't think you'll find much about the new show's wholesale revisions of the look and continuity of TOS that I'm not pretty pleased with.
As Nerys Myk observed, I just thought a lot of STD's early design work and an unconscionable amount of the writing on the show ranged from awful to merely dreary.
And...those paragraphs comprise more explanation, defense and justification of my posts here than I've probably offered up in the last fifteen years, total. I don't think I'll be doing it again, soon.
[ETA] If you have any curiosity about just how much (read: how little) I object to changing things in Star Trek - again, no reason you should care - you can get a fair sampling from my posts in the 2017 topic about the redesigned Klingons in the then -upcoming TV series.
*And, on STD, horribly lit and rendered. But that was true of most of the space CG in the show's first season.
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So I just finished watching WOK. And I've decided that I would really like to see a scene with Pike bouncing baby David on his knee.
PIke? you mean Kirk?
No. I mean in a 'I get to play with the kid and have all the fun but don't have to worry about changing diapers Jolly Uncle Chris' way.
My guess it's the time travel episode. Pike's crew meet Kirk's crew. Probably with new faces for McCoy, Scott, Sulu and Chekov. SNW faces for Uhura, Spock and Chapel. They could set it post TOS in the interregnum between the show and TMP. "Tomorrow's Enterprise:". Might be why they cast an older actor as Kirk.
Henry Alonso Myers basically spells out Kirk's role in a Cinemablend article:
He also goes on to confirm that Kirk is simply a character on the show and absolutely not taking over for Anson.
He also goes on to confirm that Kirk is simply a character on the show and absolutely not taking over for Anson.
There goes my time travel theory.
Personally I think having Kirk on SNW could end up being really beautiful. Akiva Goldsman said in an earlier TrekMovie interview:
I think we're going to see a PIke who loves his crew like family. And he's going to accept that fleet admiral promotion knowing that he's never coming back. Someone else is going to have to care for his family and his ship. The idea that he hand picks Jim Kirk for the chair because of something we see in SNW is very appealing to me, one line of dialogue in 'The Menagerie' be damned.
I think we're going to see a PIke who loves his crew like family. And he's going to accept that fleet admiral promotion knowing that he's never coming back. Someone else is going to have to care for his family and his ship. The idea that he hand picks Jim Kirk for the chair because of something we see in SNW is very appealing to me, one line of dialogue in 'The Menagerie' be damned.
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