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Least Favorite of the 5 Live Action Trek Series
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Ent for me
Voy was bland and as others have stated just tng-lite but at least it had some good episodes in there. However I struggle to remember any Ent I enjoyed until season four where it seemed to become a cheesy fanwank because they knew they were on the way out.
And just so you know, DS9 was occasionally slow with a poor ending and a bit of mishandling of characters and plots, tng was over pretentious and a bit too clinical at times though they have a higher hit rate of good episodes than voyager and TOS was from the sixties.
Voy was bland and as others have stated just tng-lite but at least it had some good episodes in there. However I struggle to remember any Ent I enjoyed until season four where it seemed to become a cheesy fanwank because they knew they were on the way out.
And just so you know, DS9 was occasionally slow with a poor ending and a bit of mishandling of characters and plots, tng was over pretentious and a bit too clinical at times though they have a higher hit rate of good episodes than voyager and TOS was from the sixties.
I'm gonna have to go with Enterprise. At least I managed to make it through Voyagers entire run.
Well, its Voyager isn't it? At least Enterprise had a good final season, even if it was overloaded with references to TOS, DS9 and TNG.
Absolute LEAST favorite: Star Trek: Voyager
I gave it a chance, but after The 37's I never watched another episode, and from what I've read of the later seasons do not regret that decision. When the most interesting and consistently written character is a starship emergency medical program; you KNOW there's a major issue in the writing room. Once Piller bailed...
I gave it a chance, but after The 37's I never watched another episode, and from what I've read of the later seasons do not regret that decision. When the most interesting and consistently written character is a starship emergency medical program; you KNOW there's a major issue in the writing room. Once Piller bailed...
Voyager is my least favorite for a number of reasons. I feel that the Maquis and Starfleet crew meshed too easily. The writers missed some great story opportunities for the Maquis to try various chances for mutiny. The USS Voyager itself looked too out of drydock even after all it went through in the Delta Quadrant. Last, but not least, Seven of Nine...nuff said.
I felt the same way about DS9 the first time around (also bailed on it), but I came to love it when I it came into reruns. It really got into its stride in season 4.
Apart from the out-of-nowhere classic Cogenitor and the amiable Carbon Creek Enterprise does pretty much nothing for me. Oh, I watched a fair bit of it, but that was just to pass the time really. The characters failed to catch my interest, which is pretty much a cardinal sin and makes it very hard to care. Voyager is mediocre, but I liked some of the characters and you knew that eventually a great episode would come along if you kept watching.
Not going to make a blanket statement that Voyager "sucked" because some of it I really enjoyed. Equinox is one my of all time favorite episodes. I also thought it had the best premise. Overall though, it was my least favorite.
You_Guyz
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If you're actually a fan of Star Trek fan then I don't see why you wouldn't want to make an effort to watch the rest of Voyager.
When I was getting into Star Trek, I took anything I could get.
Star Trek is still Star Trek (well except maybe in the case of the new film....).
I just think you're missing a lot of very entertaining trek.
ENT for several reasons.
I tried to give this series a chance and I really wanted to like it, but after 52 episodes of essentially nothing happening and no character development for pretty much the entire cast, I just couldn't stand it anymore.
I think the charachters had a lot of potential to be really interesting, but it seemed like every time they had a really good opportunity to shine in an episode, the character would simply fizzle out and then we'd be on to the next episode.
Other than the lack of character development, ENT suffered from extremely stale writing. Every episode felt like it was a complete rehash from one of it's predecessors, which in turn made me care even less about the characters and situation because I had seen the same thing on the previous shows, except this time the aliens sounded cooler and the characters were different.
Also, I found the acting to be incredibly dry and at times, unbelievable. While there were a few solid performances here and there, overall, the cast didn't impress me.
Voyager would be next on the list. I really enjoyed the first four seasons, but anything after that is a joke. It became the 7 of 9 show and seemed like writers were grasping at straws every week, especially in the final two seasons.
I tried to give this series a chance and I really wanted to like it, but after 52 episodes of essentially nothing happening and no character development for pretty much the entire cast, I just couldn't stand it anymore.
I think the charachters had a lot of potential to be really interesting, but it seemed like every time they had a really good opportunity to shine in an episode, the character would simply fizzle out and then we'd be on to the next episode.
Other than the lack of character development, ENT suffered from extremely stale writing. Every episode felt like it was a complete rehash from one of it's predecessors, which in turn made me care even less about the characters and situation because I had seen the same thing on the previous shows, except this time the aliens sounded cooler and the characters were different.
Also, I found the acting to be incredibly dry and at times, unbelievable. While there were a few solid performances here and there, overall, the cast didn't impress me.
Voyager would be next on the list. I really enjoyed the first four seasons, but anything after that is a joke. It became the 7 of 9 show and seemed like writers were grasping at straws every week, especially in the final two seasons.
Enterprise, but only by a small margin, and I don't think VOY and ENT are both genuinely terrible TV shows in the broader sense anyway, despite mostly paling in comparison to TOS, TNG, and DS9.
Enterprise improved as a series and had its moments, but still got cancelled and its solid fourth season felt like TOS fanfiction for the most part. I thought the NX-01 was a beautiful ship though in a stripped down Defiant way. Season Three was its best and most consistant season. Season One, while bland, was on hindsight not awful, awful either, but by the time ENT rolled round I was bored stupid by the TNG style formula and Enterprise did not seem to be the fresh shot in the arm.
Voyager could be very bad and it often wasted its potential with characters, but adding up its decent to excellent episodes out of the rubbish, it beats ENT through numbers. I thought its earlier seasons were mainly disinteresting and often as weak or weaker than TNG's first two seasons; contrary to Trek BBS belief I felt VOY was better in its fourth to sixth seasons; the seventh season was mostly bad because Biller was in control.
It's a hard choice really and both shows are still better than many other TV shows on either side of the Atlantic.
Enterprise improved as a series and had its moments, but still got cancelled and its solid fourth season felt like TOS fanfiction for the most part. I thought the NX-01 was a beautiful ship though in a stripped down Defiant way. Season Three was its best and most consistant season. Season One, while bland, was on hindsight not awful, awful either, but by the time ENT rolled round I was bored stupid by the TNG style formula and Enterprise did not seem to be the fresh shot in the arm.
Voyager could be very bad and it often wasted its potential with characters, but adding up its decent to excellent episodes out of the rubbish, it beats ENT through numbers. I thought its earlier seasons were mainly disinteresting and often as weak or weaker than TNG's first two seasons; contrary to Trek BBS belief I felt VOY was better in its fourth to sixth seasons; the seventh season was mostly bad because Biller was in control.
It's a hard choice really and both shows are still better than many other TV shows on either side of the Atlantic.
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Lord Garth
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ENT
I'm no basher, and I believe people should be able to enjoy the shows they like in peace, but it just wasn't the series for me. At this point, it's water under the bridge. It's been that way for a long time.
I wasn't interested in the characters, except for Hoshi and Travis (strange as that sounds), and the actors didn't seem to have much of a chemistry to me. At least now I know how fans of Sulu and Uhura (pre-JJ) feel...
The 22nd Century doesn't interest me -- well, maybe as a one-time thing (insert how/why here) but not for an entire series. The Temporal Cold War didn't interest me. And I didn't care about the Andorians. Not to mention the way they handled titallation was middle-schoolish. BSG handled sexy a lot better.
I only watched the first six episodes of the first season, up to the one with the Andorians, and some of the fourth.
I did occassionally peak into the forum what people were saying about the show and the second season sounded even less interesting than the first.
Then came "The Xindi". The premise for that episode interested me but I never watched it. I never got around to it. I had a passing curiosity about the third season but, again, I never got around to watching it, and the vibe I was getting was that it wasn't as good as the Dominion War. It all wrapped out in a season anyway. What I really wish is that the aftermath of 9/11 could've been over so quickly. That would've been nice.
I liked what I saw of the fourth season but, with the nature of the arcs, I wouldn't feel compelled to watch any more after the conclusions. If the characters can't hook you, then all of have is the story and, when the story's done, that's it.
What story I would've liked to have seen more of was a continuation of "Terra Prime". But if it had to be a last regular episode, it would've made a better finale than "These Are the Voyages". I'm one of the people who feels bad for ENT fans because their characters got shafted for Troi and Riker. No, I'm not a fan of the series, but I know unfair treatment when I see it.
I'm no basher, and I believe people should be able to enjoy the shows they like in peace, but it just wasn't the series for me. At this point, it's water under the bridge. It's been that way for a long time.
I wasn't interested in the characters, except for Hoshi and Travis (strange as that sounds), and the actors didn't seem to have much of a chemistry to me. At least now I know how fans of Sulu and Uhura (pre-JJ) feel...
The 22nd Century doesn't interest me -- well, maybe as a one-time thing (insert how/why here) but not for an entire series. The Temporal Cold War didn't interest me. And I didn't care about the Andorians. Not to mention the way they handled titallation was middle-schoolish. BSG handled sexy a lot better.
I only watched the first six episodes of the first season, up to the one with the Andorians, and some of the fourth.
I did occassionally peak into the forum what people were saying about the show and the second season sounded even less interesting than the first.
Then came "The Xindi". The premise for that episode interested me but I never watched it. I never got around to it. I had a passing curiosity about the third season but, again, I never got around to watching it, and the vibe I was getting was that it wasn't as good as the Dominion War. It all wrapped out in a season anyway. What I really wish is that the aftermath of 9/11 could've been over so quickly. That would've been nice.
I liked what I saw of the fourth season but, with the nature of the arcs, I wouldn't feel compelled to watch any more after the conclusions. If the characters can't hook you, then all of have is the story and, when the story's done, that's it.
What story I would've liked to have seen more of was a continuation of "Terra Prime". But if it had to be a last regular episode, it would've made a better finale than "These Are the Voyages". I'm one of the people who feels bad for ENT fans because their characters got shafted for Troi and Riker. No, I'm not a fan of the series, but I know unfair treatment when I see it.
TOS
TNG
DS9
- the holy trinity.
ENT
- found its footing in seasons 3 and (especially) 4 and got cancelled at the precise instant it was getting really good.
VOY
- worthless, derivative, unwatchable garbage.
So Enterprise isn't derivative when it copied some stories and themes from Voyager? "Doctor's Orders" was a retread of "One", while "Extinction" is a evolution story reasonably reminiscent of "Threshold".
yeah, "extinction" is exactly like "threshold," except that it's actually somewhat watchable and doesn't posit +-warp-10 velocities turning people into lizards.
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