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Last Jedi Official Teaser Trailer is Here!

One of the things I did love about Rogue One was the idea that the Force was this mystical power and how people treated it, who may not have been on the light or dark side. I forgot the blind guy's name but he was always saying "I am one with the force and the force is with me". Something I got from this teaser is that theme might continue in Last Jedi and I'm really intrigued by that. It would also make Rogue One really part of the Star Wars mythos instead of just anthology film.

Chirrut. :)

Well, even with the Protectors of the Whills (the group Chirrut and Baze were a part of), the Nightsisters from the Clone Wars, the Bendu and the Lasat from Rebels... they're kind of heading in that direction. Besides, the Force was a mystical power before we got the prequels. I think its great they're bringing that back.
 
The teaser left me cold.

It's pretty. It's well-made. It's nice to see Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker. It's nice to see Rey swinging a lightsaber.

But there's no emotion to it. Nothing hooked me. No image made me go, "I have to see that!"

If you loved it, go on loving it. If it made you cry, go on crying. And I'll be glad to know that the teaser did something for someone.

I only wish it did something for me.
 
"Their fire has gone out of the universe. You my friend are all that remains of their religion" ~ Grand Moff Tarkin.
 
Chirrut. :)

Well, even with the Protectors of the Whills (the group Chirrut and Baze were a part of), the Nightsisters from the Clone Wars, the Bendu and the Lasat from Rebels... they're kind of heading in that direction. Besides, the Force was a mystical power before we got the prequels. I think its great they're bringing that back.

Yeah, but one of my complaints about Star Wars is I don't feel like the Force was properly explained. I feel like with Rogue One and now Last Jedi, we might be delving more into that and I find that exciting.
 
I realize that George Lucas intended for Anakin to be the Chosen One who brought balance to the Force, but based on what we see here, why couldn't it be Luke? In-universe, who is to say that the Jedi Council got it right? That's the interesting thing about prophecies; people try to match up a prophecy with what they see, but there's never a neon sign saying "This is the event that was prophesied all those years ago".
 
That was an ok trailer. The Luke line about ending the Jedi was stupid, but then I thought about it. My theory is that the line takes place before Rey's training, and its just Luke being bitter and refusing to train her. Eventually he relents, and trains her to be a jedi, so they're just using the line near the end of the trailer to trick people.

Besides that, while it wasn't nearly as good as Episode VII's first trailer, it was ok. We saw some cool stuff, the music was decent, and it definitely gets your attention. Rey's training scenes were interesting. I wonder if the burning temple/large building is a flashback to when Kylo betrayed Luke. Overall, this was ok, although not quite as episode as VII's first trailer, and that stupid line makes the trailer a bit annoying, even though I think my theory about it is likely. I definitely don't think its leading to any stupid "grey side of the force" stuff.
 
That was an ok trailer. The Luke line about ending the Jedi was stupid, but then I thought about it. My theory is that the line takes place before Rey's training, and its just Luke being bitter and refusing to train her. Eventually he relents, and trains her to be a jedi, so they're just using the line near the end of the trailer to trick people.

That is possible. But I feel like the line in the trailer where Luke says "what do you see?" and Rey replies "light, darkness, the balance, something so much bigger" would definitely seem to suggest that Luke trains Rey to believe in something bigger than just the Jedi or the Sith.
 
That is possible. But I feel like the line in the trailer where Luke says "what do you see?" and Rey replies "light, darkness, the balance, something so much bigger" would definitely seem to suggest that Luke trains Rey to believe in something bigger than just the Jedi or the Sith.

This.
 
Anakin brings balance to the Force. The question will start to become "How?"

Ending the Sith?
Ending the Jedi?
Having Luke and Leia?
 
That is possible. But I feel like the line in the trailer where Luke says "what do you see?" and Rey replies "light, darkness, the balance, something so much bigger" would definitely seem to suggest that Luke trains Rey to believe in something bigger than just the Jedi or the Sith.

I can kinda see it, but I really doubt they're going to abandon one of the core concepts of the entire franchise. We'll probably be getting jedi as long as Disney are making movies, so it feels like just a tricky line placement. Plus, on a personal level, grey side stuff really irritates me, but even forgetting that my theory for the line is something I think is at least plausible, based on how trailers work sometimes.
 
According to George Lucas' balance is no dark side at all. The light side is the natural order of things.

Whether LucasFilm follows that idea is up in the air. I hope they don't, that doesn't sound like balance at all.
 
According to George Lucas' balance is no dark side at all. The light side is the natural order of things.

Whether LucasFilm follows that idea is up in the air. I hope they don't, that doesn't sound like balance at all.

That's fine if that's what Lucas wanted. But destroying all the dark and just having the light doesn't really sound like balance to me. You can't have light without dark and vice versa. It's like having all sunshine, lollypops and rainbows all the time with no thunderstorms. It makes no sense.
 
The teaser left me cold.

It's pretty. It's well-made. It's nice to see Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker. It's nice to see Rey swinging a lightsaber.

But there's no emotion to it. Nothing hooked me. No image made me go, "I have to see that!"

If you loved it, go on loving it. If it made you cry, go on crying. And I'll be glad to know that the teaser did something for someone.

I only wish it did something for me.

It was surprisingly mediocre. But it's a teaser after all, and this is still one of my most anticipated films of the year.

That's fine if that's what Lucas wanted. But destroying all the dark and just having the light doesn't really sound like balance to me. You can't have light without dark and vice versa. It's like having all sunshine, lollypops and rainbows all the time with no thunderstorms. It makes no sense.

If Lucas expressed the idea above, then "balance" is more akin to the notion or returning to a "normal" state. The normal state of a human body is "healthy", but sometimes the normal state is disrupted by a virus or an injury. The desire is to return to the normal state. To be more literal, when you lose your balance, you try to get back to a balanced state. In this view, the Sith are akin to a virus, and are an aberration from the norm. Not some Yang to the Jedi's Yin.
 
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I realize that George Lucas intended for Anakin to be the Chosen One who brought balance to the Force, but based on what we see here, why couldn't it be Luke? In-universe, who is to say that the Jedi Council got it right? That's the interesting thing about prophecies; people try to match up a prophecy with what they see, but there's never a neon sign saying "This is the event that was prophesied all those years ago".
It is Luke. Obi Wan tells Maul this in 'Rebels'
 
According to George Lucas' balance is no dark side at all. The light side is the natural order of things.

Whether LucasFilm follows that idea is up in the air. I hope they don't, that doesn't sound like balance at all.
That's fine if that's what Lucas wanted. But destroying all the dark and just having the light doesn't really sound like balance to me. You can't have light without dark and vice versa. It's like having all sunshine, lollypops and rainbows all the time with no thunderstorms. It makes no sense.

It really depends on what you think the dark side is vs what you think the light side is.

A lot of fans and some authors seem to have gone with the notion that it's a literal light/dark, yin/yang, order/chaos dichotomy. From what GL has said over the years that's not the case. It seems to be more of a harmony vs. discord thing. That the dark side is an unnatural, cancerous aberration in the natural order. A perversion of the force. So to restore balance is to eliminate, or at least sublimate it.

Short version: "light and "dark" are metaphorical lables, not to be taken literally.
 
I'm not sure if Lucas' idea was not dark side and all light side, but more that the Sith were a corruption of the Force. The Sith end, but there is still a dark side, since that seems to be a natural component of the Force. Yet there has to be a balance between the light and the dark. Something beyond the concepts of the Jedi and the Sith....something lost to time more than likely. The "end of the Sith", a thousand or so years before the Clone Wars and the Jedi Order that was in place would have forgotten so much due to however that last war went down before the survival of Darth Bane and the creation of the Rule of Two. The Sith adapting to overthrow the Republic and bring the Jedi down due to their own inability to see properly. Following the Clone Wars, Yoda decide to adapt to counter the Sith and eventually trains Luke. Luke uses this training, but eventually comes up with his own solution to the problem of the two Darths...one that results in the end of the Sith at Anakin's mechanical hand. Post-war, Luke rebuilds the Jedi Order, but at some point something happens and his nephew falls to the Dark Side and destroys the Order (again). Luke goes again on a quest for knowledge and I suppose finds out more than he suspected about the Force, the Jedi, and the Sith. Now Rey arrives and Luke will need to train her to become something that the galaxy either hasn't seen in thousands of years (a truly balanced Force user) or something completely new to the galaxy that has been ravaged by the Sith countless times over thousands of years with the Jedi fighting back time and time again.

Luke is the Last of the Jedi, both the older order and his own new order. Rey....Rey will be something else. Something that might still be called a Jedi, in time, but is not what the Jedi were back in the days of Yoda.

It is Luke. Obi Wan tells Maul this in 'Rebels'

Timing is everything. At that point in time, Old Ben had given up on Anakin ever returning, and instead was placing his bets on Luke. He was partial right, but it was still Anakin Skywalker who fulfilled the Prophecy and ended the Sith.
 
Timing is everything. At that point in time, Old Ben had given up on Anakin ever returning, and instead was placing his bets on Luke. He was partial right, but it was still Anakin Skywalker who fulfilled the Prophecy and ended the Sith.
Because of Luke.
 
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