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Last Doctor Who Story you listened to?

Just finished Zagreus. Took a while to get through as it is long. I like the conceit used to get as many past Doctors and Companions into the cast. I also liked how they used the different theme tunes on each episode. It was a good story, though a bit confusing at times. Need to pay attention which not always easy when commuting or out and about.

Sadly Audible don't seem to have the "Divergent Universe" stories so will have to move onto Blood Of The Daleks.
 
I do wonder sometimes how Daleks keep track of which Dalek is which, like when assigning work or keeping records or making reports or whatever. Do they have serial numbers? I can't believe a society could really function without some way to identify and refer to individuals when not addressing them directly.
I think I saw somewhere that the Daleks in the new series from 2005 have a marker below their eyestalk that is their serial number. Can see it in this picture:
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net...levator.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20110422193147

Sadly I don't think it was always carried through on Daleks in later series.
 
I took out a subscription for the last twelve releases of the monthly range, because the announced half sounds reasonably interesting. The first two, a pair of Six/Flip/Constance stories, were solid, though with lots of unexplored potential. Scorched Earth sees them visit a French village just after the liberation in 1944 and get caught up in a conflict over the punishment of an accused collaborator, while in The Lovecraft Invasion, they end up inside the head of H. P. Lovecraft, trying to stop a psychic alien from using his creations to destroy the planet. Flip and Constance are fun together, though I can see why people felt neither one really worked on her own. My full thoughts are here.
 
Nekromanteia didn't do much for me. A jumble of elements that didn't really mesh well -- some kind of alien witchcraft cult in space, and a corporate-villain angle that seemed like an attempt to mimic "The Caves of Androzani" (during the line of audios taking place directly before it) but couldn't hold a candle to it. The Doctor actually dying as a cliffhanger and then getting better through nebulous means. (If he's in a duplicate of his original body now, shouldn't that have reset his regenerations or something?) And the day being saved by a cat.

Plus it's a hell of a tease to give Peri a full-frontal nude scene... in an audio drama.

And this completes the set of new theme tunes with the Howell arrangement for Davison. I'm pretty sure this was the first version of the bridge portion of the theme that I ever heard, because the end-title arrangement for the Tom Baker years didn't use it. So at the time, I thought Peter Howell had invented a new part of the theme. It wasn't until they cycled back to Hartnell, I think, that I learned otherwise.
 
OK, how did I miss that they did a Fourth Doctor/Tenth Doctor team up with David Tennant and Tom Baker. I might just have to actually buy that one.
 
Nekromanteia didn't do much for me. A jumble of elements that didn't really mesh well -- some kind of alien witchcraft cult in space, and a corporate-villain angle that seemed like an attempt to mimic "The Caves of Androzani" (during the line of audios taking place directly before it) but couldn't hold a candle to it. The Doctor actually dying as a cliffhanger and then getting better through nebulous means. (If he's in a duplicate of his original body now, shouldn't that have reset his regenerations or something?) And the day being saved by a cat.
Not a lot to contribute to Nekromanteia, mainly because the whole of the Erimem period is a kind of blur since I only listened to it back in the day in 2014/2015, but I do remember loving the Five/Peri/Erimem team very much, and feeling as I did in Caves that Peri was much suited to the Fifth Doctor than she ever was with Six (at least on TV anyway). The only thing I remember was the feeling of dread and foreboding I had while listening to it, though I could be misremembering.

Plus it's a hell of a tease to give Peri a full-frontal nude scene... in an audio drama.
lol, I most certianly don't remember that!

And this completes the set of new theme tunes with the Howell arrangement for Davison. I'm pretty sure this was the first version of the bridge portion of the theme that I ever heard, because the end-title arrangement for the Tom Baker years didn't use it. So at the time, I thought Peter Howell had invented a new part of the theme. It wasn't until they cycled back to Hartnell, I think, that I learned otherwise.
My favorite variation of the theme. i have read Derbyshire didn't care for it, but I don't care. Its still the one I might listen to it for pure joy of music.
 
Over the years, I've decided the original Derbyshire arrangement is my favorite. Some of the later embellishments are good in their way, but there's just something about it stripped down to the pure fundamentals.
 
The original is probably the best, though it trails as a good second in terms of variations in terms of it being a favorite. Its extraordinarily iconic, and probably the best theme in television history (and the Trek fan in me is hurt when I admit to this).
 
The Dark Flame is the second Seven/Ace/Benny audio set in the New Adventures continuity, but it doesn't hold a, err, candle to Paul Cornell's Shadow of the Scourge. It wasn't bad, just fairly ordinary, and seemed to be largely just playing continuity bingo by telling the origin of a supporting character from Benny's solo fiction, or so I gather from the wiki. This is my second exposure to Trevor Baxendale's work, the first being the novel Prisoner of the Daleks, which I also borrowed from the library a few months back. I wasn't too impressed with that one either.
 
Nice to see people talking about audios I've actually heard, because I am way, way behind on the main range audios. My wife and I used to listen to them on long road trips to see her family, and then her sister, who she was closest to, moved a lot closer to here, so we didn't get through as many. And then I started listening to BF audios on my work commute, but I haven't commuted to work since March, teleworking through the lockdown. Took me some time to try to get back into a BF routine.

So, I've been working through the Companion Chronicles. (It isn't just the main range I'm way behind on.) I'm finding them a mixed bag so far, getting close to the end of the third season. Tonight's was Resistance, which was an enjoyable one. It's a Second Doctor, Ben, Polly, and Jamie story, and it's a straight historical, the main characters being the only science fictional element in a story set in Nazi-occupied France in 1944. The story is pretty good, but Anneke Wills is downright great as a reader, doing a remarkable job of capturing the other characters.

I'll probably take a break in the Companion Chronicles before too long and dip into some other ranges. I was doing a good job keeping up with Torchwood until the pandemic, so I'll probably do those next. Maybe the new Class stories, too. I liked the first bunch BF did, because, like the three Class novels, they don't deal with the weakest element of Class, the Shadow Kin. On the other hand, the new set doesn't have the best thing about Class, Katherine Kelly, who's been recast (too busy) and replaced by Dervla Kirwan. Class may not be the highest priority or the best thing BF's done, but it's always nice to know I've caught up with a whole range, and that won't take long to do.
 
So, The Magician's Oath, by Scott Handcock, with Richard Franklin as Mike Yates. It's an odd one. The first half sets up an interesting mystery. The second half solves it almost immediately and is just a long confrontation between the villain and the Doctor, Mike, Jo, and the Brigadier. But the villain's powers are controlled by the writer rather than being consistently presented, and in a scene where the plot needs those powers not to work, they don't. It's not mentioned or justified, as if Handcock had forgotten, oh, wait, I've already established that if she did this he could just do that. A solid meh.
 
Last night I finished Susan's War, Big Finish's latest, ah, innovative attempt to extend the Time War concept by showing how the Doctor's granddaughter joined the fight. Maybe I'm just getting soft, but I thought it was pretty good as BF Time War stories go, though it missed the real potential of its concept, and the final story completely wastes Paul McGann's guest appearance. My full review: https://latedemocracy.com/2020/08/16/what-did-you-do-in-the-war-granddaddy/.
 
Good grief, it sounds like there's a huge amount of Time War audio fiction these days. That seems to cheapen it. And what I've seen of Time War fiction -- even in screen canon -- tends to be disappointing, more just conventional shoot-at-each-other war at different times in history, rather than the actual time war it was described to be in RTD's tenure, a war where time travel itself was the weapon and enemies were attacked by altering their history to cost them victories they already made or attempt to erase them altogether (with Genesis of the Daleks being the Time Lords' first pre-emptive salvo that triggered the rest). Although there was an IDW multi-Doctor comic I've read, the one with the Voords, that took that approach, as I recall.
 
That’s the biggest problem with all of BF’s Time War stuff: with a few notable exceptions, they’re not even trying to explore the possibilities of a Time War or to build on the onscreen hints about it in anything other than the most mechanical way. I think trying to portray the Time War directly is inherently a mistake— it’s something that works best as part of a misty, quasi-mythological backstory. I understand the impulse to do War Doctor stories when they had John Hurt available, but that doesn’t excuse the decision to drag every possible range into it, especially when there’s so little evident effort to tailor the stories being told to those ranges and their characters.
 
Basically, for all that Star Trek: Enterprise made a hash of its Temporal Cold War story arc (because the producers never really wanted to do it anyway and only put in the time travel at the insistence of network suits afraid of going backward in the Trek timeline instead of forward), at least it understood what a time war should be -- different factions jockeying to change history in their favor, a chess match in four or five dimensions rather than just a head-on fight. The "Storm Front" 2-parter, where the cold war went hot and the rival factions were actively playing merry hell with history, was a glimpse of what I presume the Doctor Who Time War would've been like.
 
Just happened to read an issue of DWM from a few years ago with an article on one of the first BF Time War stories. They discussed the big, strange things RTD's Doctors mentioned about the Time War, then whoever was there from BF said something like, fortunately. Moffat showed us some of the Time War and it was people shooting and things going boom, so that made it easier for us.

It isn't necessary to make the Time War boring by focusing on Moffat's bad take. I liked the John Hurt audios well enough, though they were sometimes rather limited in their conception of a time war, and I'm intrigued by the War Master because Derek Jacobi, but otherwise, some things are best left to the imagination.
 
Just happened to read an issue of DWM from a few years ago with an article on one of the first BF Time War stories. They discussed the big, strange things RTD's Doctors mentioned about the Time War, then whoever was there from BF said something like, fortunately. Moffat showed us some of the Time War and it was people shooting and things going boom, so that made it easier for us.

It isn't necessary to make the Time War boring by focusing on Moffat's bad take. I liked the John Hurt audios well enough, though they were sometimes rather limited in their conception of a time war, and I'm intrigued by the War Master because Derek Jacobi, but otherwise, some things are best left to the imagination.

Back in March, reading RTD's "Target novelization" Doctor Who and the Time War, the "extract" felt weird and strange and imaginative, in just a few pages, in all the ways that Moffat's "The Day of the Doctor" was not.

I'm not sure that Moffat could have writen the Time War in any sort of way that seriously grappled with time changing and its implications, because nothing in his Doctor Who career suggests he was interested in that. In "Continuity Errors," Moffat plays the seventh Doctor rewrtiing a librarian's life to make her nicer (so he could check out a book) as something out of a sitcom. I recall an interview where he said that, after "The Big Bang," Amy was a different character than she was in Series 5 because she now had a different past, but he never explored the difference that having parents her whole life would make on Amy. Then there's the strange case of "The Wedding of River Song," which is probably what a real Time War would feel like, and I call it "strange" because I still don't know what the point of that was, and absolutely none of it was fulfilling. (There's something deeply unsatisfying about an alternate Amy defeating an alternate Kovarian for things that happened to and by different versions of these characters.) As a writer, Moffat was never interested in the implications of his own ideas (best example of that -- Dalek assimilation nanites in "Asylum of the Daleks"); it's little wonder he wasn't interested in the implications of RTD's.

Basically, for all that Star Trek: Enterprise made a hash of its Temporal Cold War story arc (because the producers never really wanted to do it anyway and only put in the time travel at the insistence of network suits afraid of going backward in the Trek timeline instead of forward), at least it understood what a time war should be -- different factions jockeying to change history in their favor, a chess match in four or five dimensions rather than just a head-on fight. The "Storm Front" 2-parter, where the cold war went hot and the rival factions were actively playing merry hell with history, was a glimpse of what I presume the Doctor Who Time War would've been like.

Sometimes, Christopher, I wish John Ordover had stayed at Pocket a few more years, because I could imagine him doing a summer cross-series mini-series in 2007 or 2008 called "The Temporal Cold War," and we'd have had six books in the summer that showed how the TCW affected Kirk and Picard and Sisko and Janeway, and maybe two other random books that didn't fall neatly in a series designation. But only sometimes. :)
 
Moffat had big arcs that meant nothing. Is the Doctor going to die at Lake Silencio? No, of course not. Will Silence fall? Sure, but it won't really make any difference to anything. Is the Doctor a good man? Well, gee, maybe that one will be a surprise -- nope. What is the hybrid? I still don't get the point of that one. There was a lot of good stuff in the Moffat era, but in general I missed the RTD approach, and I'm relieved to have Chibnall taking a less Moffaty approach.

Also, I can totally see John Ordover doing that big crossover. There'd be a gimmick, though. Each book would end with things going very wrong, then there'd be a hardcover volume wrapping up the story with the timelines being corrected. And the New Frontier book would have next to nothing to do with the TCW storyline.

Meanwhile, in the world of Doctor Who audios, these Sara Kingdom Companion Chronicles are very odd.
 
There are some companions -- and yes, I count Sara Kingdom as one, despite only appearing in a single serial -- where it doesn't make any sense to squeeze in more stories. You might be able to fit a story or two on either side of "The Feast of Steven," though probably easier after, but that's about the most you can do for Sara Kingdom without doing something timey-wimey. Or, my pet buggaboo, the Five/Peri(/Erimem) team is great, but there's not a years-long gap between "Planet of Fire" and "Androzani" to squeeze a bunch of novels and audios into.
 
There are some companions -- and yes, I count Sara Kingdom as one, despite only appearing in a single serial -- where it doesn't make any sense to squeeze in more stories. You might be able to fit a story or two on either side of "The Feast of Steven," though probably easier after, but that's about the most you can do for Sara Kingdom without doing something timey-wimey.

Or rewriting the plot, as John Peel's 2-book novelization did, claiming that Sara was on board the TARDIS for "several months" prior to "The Feast of Steven."

I can see room for a number of adventures after "Feast." Sure, there's a scene early in the next episode where Sara says they have to get back to Kembel and stop the Dalek invasion fleet, but then, how many times did Tegan remind the Doctor she had to get back to Heathrow? It wasn't necessarily the first time Sara reminded the Doctor of that need, or even the fifth, given how limited his ability to navigate the TARDIS was back then.


Or, my pet buggaboo, the Five/Peri(/Erimem) team is great, but there's not a years-long gap between "Planet of Fire" and "Androzani" to squeeze a bunch of novels and audios into.

I dunno, it's not as bad as some of the ways they've tried to cram novels and audios between Hartnell and Troughton serials that flowed directly into one another. I checked the transcripts, and the dialogue doesn't explicitly confirm they follow each other immediately. I think Peri was wearing the same outfit, but outfits can be reworn (and lots of TV characters have worn the same outfit continuously, e.g. the Doctor). Years would be pushing it, yes, but the Wiki says there are only a dozen Five/Peri/Erimem audios, which doesn't seem hugely excessive.

Of course, I can understand the real-world consideration that their story choices are dictated by which cast members are willing and affordable. They were able to get both Davison and Bryant on a continuing basis, so they had to come up with multiple Five/Peri stories, as little sense as that made. And I can see the appeal of taking a Doctor-companion pairing that only got two adventures together and giving them more time to develop their rapport.
 
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