Krall appearance?

[Laura Cynthia Chambers]

It makes sense that if a story which clearly parallels the Franklin's disappearance happens/is referenced in Discovery, it might get a mention.

Example: the crew of Discovery ponders being lost mysteriously..."we'll be one of the great mysteries of space history, like the (insert Vulcan ship here), (insert alien space probe name here), the Franklin..."

 

[Ralphis]

IMHO, unless the writers for DSC have a really good concept that adds to the overall story arc and are not just throwing Krall in there for the sake of doing so, I think the subject of Krall in the Prime Universe is better suited for the novels or comic books. The earlier IDW Kelvin Timeline comic books reimagined classic TOS stories in a Kelvin Timeline way - maybe eventually we could see Kelvin Timeline stories reimagined in a TOS way? Just a thought.

 

[Blooded]

Wouldn't Paramount have exclusive ownership of Krall, being that he was created for their movie? I don't think CBS would be able to use him?

Either way, probably better suited for the novels. I'm not sure how different an episode of Discovery could be to how Beyond dealt with Krall, given the meaty drama is in his origins, which we'd already know this time around. Certainly would like to see the story covered, but in a different medium.

 

[Kemaiku]

So far, Kelvin and Prime productions are restricted from overlapping since 2009, the novels cannot reference the Hobus event or the Kelvin timeline directly. Which is a major issue for their future, and so televised media would be the same, CBS and Paramounts movie division are keeping them apart indefinitely.

 

[F. King Daniel]

I'm pretty sure the reason Simon Pegg said the Kelvin timeline was separate from Prime before as well as after Nero's appearance in 2233 was because they didn't want to be beholden to anything Discovery establishes about Trek's past, and vice-versa.

Personally, I'd love to see that "Seal Team Six of the Star Trek Universe" talked about movie be a prequel about Edison and the Franklin MACOs fighting in the Romulan War.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I'm well aware of what Simon Pegg said. I just don't care.

Until and unless this makes it into a film (or even DSC), then Pegg's comments effectively never existed, and thus fans are free to accept or reject his viewpoint according to their whims.

 

[KennyB]

They could afford Susanna Thompson when they needed the Borg Queen. No problem there...

Timo Saloniemi

Don't you mean Alice Krige? She was the Queen in First Contact and Endgame.....Susanna stood in when Krige was unavailable and with all due respect to her I think Idris Elba's rate is pretty high at the moment. Most likely much higher then either Queen.

 

[Zonker]

I'd love to see a lot of the species established in the Kelvin movies appear in Discovery but I'd rather they not use the actual characters from those movies.

 

[Mudd]

Neville Page is involved with both.

 

[USS Triumphant]

There was a USS Archer in Nemesis, though. Not to mention the Defiant - which is quite obviously a TOS ship - turning up in ENT's "In a Mirror, Darkly". That good enough for ya?

Just because there was an Archer who was famous enough to get a ship (and a star system) named after him doesn't mean it was the ENT Jonathan Archer.

Well you clearly have a prime story from TNG used in TATV, that to me makes it clear that it's prime.

And yes I feel slightly ashamed for referencing that episode.

Don't worry - you've actually helped make MY point. Because the TNG events in TATV don't make a heck of a lot of sense in the context of the episode "The Pegasus" as we saw it in the Prime timeline, plus Riker and Troi are both clearly older. Obviously, that wasn't the future of the Prime timeline.

 

[The Wormhole]

So far, Kelvin and Prime productions are restricted from overlapping since 2009, the novels cannot reference the Hobus event or the Kelvin timeline directly. Which is a major issue for their future, and so televised media would be the same, CBS and Paramounts movie division are keeping them apart indefinitely.

IIRC, it isn't quite like that since we have STO allowed to use stuff from the Abrams movies, like Hobus and now there's even a storyline involving travel to the Kelvin timeline. The reason the novels are forbidden from touching Hobus or the Kelvin verse is because Bad Robot doesn't want them to.

I'm well aware of what Simon Pegg said. I just don't care.

Until and unless this makes it into a film (or even DSC), then Pegg's comments effectively never existed, and thus fans are free to accept or reject his viewpoint according to their whims.

They aren't really "Pegg's comments" as he was quoting the officially licensed Encyclopedia when he said that, meaning someone high-up in the CBS/Paramount food chain approves of the idea.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

^ Not even the Encyclopedia is canon. I don't care if it's licensed.

 

[Timo]

Don't you mean Alice Krige?

No, I mean Susanna Thompson. Krall could be portrayed by Pegg's long-lost stepbrother for all we care, and it would still be convincing enough, especially with all the makeup. Cheap copies are rather literally a dime in a dozen. And just like Blooded says, the dramatic role of Krall would in all likelihood fall deep in the "cheap copy" category, there being no other stories about Krall worth telling.

Timo Saloniemi