Knowing - Nic Cage movie 3/20 Discussion, Review and Grading-SPOILERS

[steveman]

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I very much look forward to seeing it.

I have a feeling it will touch upon ideas of faith and God in much the same way that "Donnie Darko" did. I don't think it will be overt, as some have worried. It may be a little more overt than "Darko" was, but I think Proyas will have handled it appropriately.

 

[Ubik]

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I am absolutely flabbergasted by the critical reception to this movie - the vast majority of reviewers not only dislike it, they despise it; they say it's the worst movie of the year.

But the movie is fantastic - brave, intelligent, jaw-dropping, worthy of much discussion afetrwards. I simply and literally don't understand. Dis we all see the same movie? Ebert's 4-star review is right on the money.

People - go see this movie. I dunno. Maybe I'm crazy. But I think it's a must-see for sci-fi fans.

 

[Captain Craig]

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Which is why people need not listen to critics to decide if they want to see a movie, go with your instinct and don't let some "pro" be your measuring stick.

Glad you liked it Ubik, don't forget to vote in the poll.

 

[Brent]

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Just got back from seeing it, I give it a B.

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The intent was there for the plot, but some of the actions of the main character weren't in-depth enough to explain his sudden belief for example that he trusted these alien dudes enough to give them his son. For example, all of this happened right after they kidnapped his son and the girl in the car. I don't know, I was scratching my head like wtf dude, why do you trust them now all the sudden?

I kind of felt like that throughout the film, like it just wasn't going into enough depth on everything, I guess you could say it felt a bit shallow. Still though, I found it enjoyable and entertaining, and the ending was left with a hopeful message. I have to say, I started to feel like I was going to cry when Cage's character and his family all hugged together at the end before that blast wave hit them. That was a very touching moment for the movie. Oh, and the alien dudes looked like they had "Angelic" wings.

 

[Brent]

Re: Knowing - Nic Cage movie 3/20 Discussion, Review and Grading-SPOIL

I am absolutely flabbergasted by the critical reception to this movie - the vast majority of reviewers not only dislike it, they despise it; they say it's the worst movie of the year.

But the movie is fantastic - brave, intelligent, jaw-dropping, worthy of much discussion afetrwards. I simply and literally don't understand. Dis we all see the same movie? Ebert's 4-star review is right on the money.

People - go see this movie. I dunno. Maybe I'm crazy. But I think it's a must-see for sci-fi fans.

It isn't the worse movie of the season, but it also isn't the best. It had the potential to be Epic, but wasn't. Still, it was a good movie and worth seeing, entertaining.

Interestingly though, there was a kid sitting in front of me, looked about 10, he kept telling his mom throughout the movie that it was stupid, heh.

 

[miraclefan]

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I thought it was a good movie. On my personal score point system, I gave it a 8/10. And for the ending, I thought it was very brave and shocking, I really was not expecting it! It's the type of ending ''I'' would have done if I ever direted this type of ''Apocalyptic'' film.But I gave it a B+ just to play it safe

 

[Captain Craig]

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Knowing captured the #1 slot at the box office this weekend with an impressive $24.8m estimated three day weekend.

It's a good showing for Nic Cage and Summit Pictures who as a young studio didn't have much to crow about till Twilight. This feathers their cap a bit more. Especially after the lackluster showing for Push.

 

[Sephiroth]

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thank you for letting me know beforehand that it's a Coincidence Vs. God's plan kinda thing, I cant stand that bullshit, both my best friend and my father believe that there are no coincidences, so i get beat over the head enough with that bullshit, it's also why i quit watching BSG

 

[Captain Craig]

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^^^
You are welcome.

 

[marillion]

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Saw this today and really, really liked it.. Not just for the the acting and the story and all that.. But I RESPECT this film for what it made me do..

After one scene, ok, I'll admit it, the plane crash, I had to leave the theatre for a moment (under the pretense of a bathroom break).. The visuals and amazing CGI (not to mention the incredibly loud music and sound FX) disturbed me to the point of needing a moment or two to collect my thoughts.

I repect the film for this because it's the first time this has ever happened...

Definetely recommended.. Those going for a biblical prophesy story, however, are in for a surprise....

 

[Sephiroth]

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wow, marillion....check your e-mail, dude

 

[Captain Craig]

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Definetely recommended.. Those going for a biblical prophesy story, however, are in for a surprise....

Explain.

Its plain that the OT book of Ezekiel ch.1 is a focus. It would've been moreso had they read passages as certain imagery is translanted into the film. I wonder if those are in some edits.

Its also clear that John(Cage) as a man of science and faltered faith that the film allows the viewer to make up ones on mind.

 

[AvBaur]

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"Very well-directed silly rubbish."
This quote I read in a review a few days ago describes this movie rather fittingly. I thought it was really exciting and extremely well made, but didn't make a lot of sense after the silly ending. I'm still trying to figure out what the film makers wanted to tell me with it and I have a feeling that they weren't too sure about that themselves.

 

[Captain Craig]

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I'm still trying to figure out what the film makers wanted to tell me with it and I have a feeling that they weren't too sure about that themselves.

Maybe this post from page 1 of this thread will help. It has some quotes from the filmmaker that might shed some light on their goals for you.

 

[TGTheodore]

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I was completely fascinated and entertained by this movie. (And a few moments were genuinely scary). Some of the accidents and their aftermaths are incredibly graphic, yet not gratuitously gory in a B-movie shlocker sense.

Not at all what I expected, and I thought all the related themes were handled well, and the fates of each main character never took the cheap way out.

I gave it an A-.

--Ted

 

[c0rnedfr0g]

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i absolutely loved this movie. it's been awhile since i've sat in a theatre and literally had NO idea what was going to happen, where the show was going. I'd recommend seeing it, but go in blind, ie don't read anything about it beforehand. Ebert gave it 4 stars

 

[marillion]

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Definetely recommended.. Those going for a biblical prophesy story, however, are in for a surprise....

Explain.

Its plain that the OT book of Ezekiel ch.1 is a focus. It would've been moreso had they read passages as certain imagery is translanted into the film. I wonder if those are in some edits.

Its also clear that John(Cage) as a man of science and faltered faith that the film allows the viewer to make up ones on mind.

Ok.. Maybe that was a bit vague.. It starts out as a psycological thriller, turns very quickly into a biblical prophesy story, and then end up firmly rooted in science fiction.

I have to believe that the whol Ezekiel Ch. 1 thing was meant to be better explained.. By the time it came up in the movie, it was almost an afterthought.

But, and here's where spoilers are... Turns out that the angels may very well have been aliens.... Or at least the angels/figures/beings talked about in Ezekiel were...

So my meaning about it not being a true "biblical prophesy" story is that while it starts that way, it's more deeply rooted in sci-fi in the end...

Sorry for any misunderstanding....

 

[Checkmate]

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I thought it was a little on the goofy side.

I mean, what was the point of having the prophecies if they were going to be buried for 50 years (at her own suggestion)? And why numbers? Why not just have the note say it plainly if it was always destined to end up in John's hands? Hell, what was the point in even letting him find out about it if they were simply going to steal all these children the world round?

It was an interesting movie, sure, but the whole prophecy angle of it was pretty much filler for the actual story. Alien-angels win the trust of kids, alien-angels save kids from hopeless disaster, alien-angels take kids to new world to start over. That was the actual movie. John running around deciphering the numbers and its meanings meant nothing and had zero impact on anything relating to that story.

 

[Ubik]

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I thought it was a little on the goofy side.

I mean, what was the point of having the prophecies if they were going to be buried for 50 years (at her own suggestion)? And why numbers? Why not just have the note say it plainly if it was always destined to end up in John's hands? Hell, what was the point in even letting him find out about it if they were simply going to steal all these children the world round?

It was an interesting movie, sure, but the whole prophecy angle of it was pretty much filler for the actual story. Alien-angels win the trust of kids, alien-angels save kids from hopeless disaster, alien-angels take kids to new world to start over. That was the actual movie. John running around deciphering the numbers and its meanings meant nothing and had zero impact on anything relating to that story.

I think you missed one of the major points. Not just any kids were saved - only people who could "hear" the voices of the aliens/angels/whatever. So, the "prophecies" were a test, as well as a way to convince whoever COULD hear the numbers that they were indeed real, and not just a figment of their imaginations. If I heard a voice saying, "Be at such and such a place at such and such a time," I would think I was crazy. But if I heard that voice, and also knew that it had been correct in predicting disasters for 50 years, then I'd believe it. The prophecies were absolutely necessary to make the people who can hear the voices BELIEVE.

That's how I read it, anyway.

 

[Bob The Skutter]

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I saw this tonight, thought it was utter rubbish. It seemed to be confused about what style of film it was, and the story seemed under developed. I will admit there was some very well directed scenes, which were gripping but for most of the film I was either bored or rolling my eyes.
I gave it a D.